Comments on: Hot Offseason Action: Padres http://umpbump.com/press/2007/01/20/hot-offseason-action-padres/ In-your-face baseball commentary Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:48:13 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2007/01/20/hot-offseason-action-padres/comment-page-1/#comment-6828 Paul Moro Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:41:56 +0000 http://www.umpbump.com/press/hot-offseason-action-padres/#comment-6828 Sarah and I discussed the relative grades of the Yankees and the Red Sox. The Yankees had a brilliant offseason not because of Igawa or Mientkiewicz, but because of the way they managed to load up on hot prospects in exchange for Sheffield and RJ, something Coley could have highlighted a bit more maybe. Basically, the Yankees got rid of two guys they didn't even want and somehow convinced teams to give them all sorts of live young arms and bats. Sarah and I discussed the relative grades of the Yankees and the Red Sox. The Yankees had a brilliant offseason not because of Igawa or Mientkiewicz, but because of the way they managed to load up on hot prospects in exchange for Sheffield and RJ, something Coley could have highlighted a bit more maybe.

Basically, the Yankees got rid of two guys they didn’t even want and somehow convinced teams to give them all sorts of live young arms and bats.

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]]> By: Sarah Green http://umpbump.com/press/2007/01/20/hot-offseason-action-padres/comment-page-1/#comment-6773 Sarah Green Fri, 16 Feb 2007 03:39:13 +0000 http://www.umpbump.com/press/hot-offseason-action-padres/#comment-6773 Art, Sarah wrote the Red Sox review. I wrote the Yankees review. She is a Red Sox fan. I am not a Yankees fan (go Phillies!). However, I think you can argue that the Yankees did more by staying pat than the Sox did by agressively signing free agents at insane prices. The Yankees actually managed to lower their payroll, while strengthening their defense and pitching. The Red Sox bolstered their starting staff, but their bullpen lost its stud closer, their infield defense got worse (Lugo for Gonzo) and their payroll went through the roof. So which team had a more efficient offseason? Art, Sarah wrote the Red Sox review. I wrote the Yankees review. She is a Red Sox fan. I am not a Yankees fan (go Phillies!). However, I think you can argue that the Yankees did more by staying pat than the Sox did by agressively signing free agents at insane prices. The Yankees actually managed to lower their payroll, while strengthening their defense and pitching. The Red Sox bolstered their starting staff, but their bullpen lost its stud closer, their infield defense got worse (Lugo for Gonzo) and their payroll went through the roof. So which team had a more efficient offseason?

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]]> By: art rigby http://umpbump.com/press/2007/01/20/hot-offseason-action-padres/comment-page-1/#comment-6762 art rigby Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:05:37 +0000 http://www.umpbump.com/press/hot-offseason-action-padres/#comment-6762 You obviuosly must be a Yankee fan to grade the Yankess offseason an "A-" and the Red Sox a "B+". Of the three Yankee acquisitions mentioned by you, which one, not to mention their three-way average, is an A-? Igawa? The new first baseman? The other new infielder? Mystery to me, that's for sure.Get some objectivity, please. You obviuosly must be a Yankee fan to grade the Yankess offseason an “A-” and the Red Sox a “B+”. Of the three Yankee acquisitions mentioned by you, which one, not to mention their three-way average, is an A-? Igawa? The new first baseman? The other new infielder? Mystery to me, that’s for sure.Get some objectivity, please.

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]]> By: umpbump.com http://umpbump.com/press/2007/01/20/hot-offseason-action-padres/comment-page-1/#comment-2547 umpbump.com Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:18:54 +0000 http://www.umpbump.com/press/hot-offseason-action-padres/#comment-2547 [...] January 17 - Dodgers, C January 18 - Braves, C- January 18 - Yankees, A- January 19 - A’s, B January 20 - Padres, B January 20 - White Sox, D- Share us:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...] [...] January 17 – Dodgers, C January 18 – Braves, C- January 18 – Yankees, A- January 19 – A’s, B January 20 – Padres, B January 20 – White Sox, D- Share us:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]

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]]> By: umpbump.com http://umpbump.com/press/2007/01/20/hot-offseason-action-padres/comment-page-1/#comment-52212 umpbump.com Mon, 22 Jan 2007 01:18:15 +0000 http://www.umpbump.com/press/hot-offseason-action-padres/#comment-52212 [...] January 17 - Dodgers, C January 18 - Braves, C- January 18 - Yankees, A- January 19 - A’s, B January 20 - Padres, B January 20 - White Sox, D- Share us:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...] [...] January 17 – Dodgers, C January 18 – Braves, C- January 18 – Yankees, A- January 19 – A’s, B January 20 – Padres, B January 20 – White Sox, D- Share us:These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and discover new web pages. [...]

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]]> By: Nick Kapur http://umpbump.com/press/2007/01/20/hot-offseason-action-padres/comment-page-1/#comment-2512 Nick Kapur Sun, 21 Jan 2007 03:20:27 +0000 http://www.umpbump.com/press/hot-offseason-action-padres/#comment-2512 hehe, at this point, even Bobby Abreu (2 months) feels like more of a "True Yankee" than ARod (3 years). hehe, at this point, even Bobby Abreu (2 months) feels like more of a “True Yankee” than ARod (3 years).

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]]> By: Zvee Geffen http://umpbump.com/press/2007/01/20/hot-offseason-action-padres/comment-page-1/#comment-2510 Zvee Geffen Sun, 21 Jan 2007 02:27:48 +0000 http://www.umpbump.com/press/hot-offseason-action-padres/#comment-2510 A-Rod's "not a real Yankee" status attains new heights! A-Rod’s “not a real Yankee” status attains new heights!

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]]> By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2007/01/20/hot-offseason-action-padres/comment-page-1/#comment-2477 Paul Moro Fri, 19 Jan 2007 22:06:15 +0000 http://www.umpbump.com/press/hot-offseason-action-padres/#comment-2477 Haha, I didn't even notice that ARod was missing when I added Jason Giambi to Coley's projected lineup and changed the centerfielder's name from "Matt Damon." But I guess that's because ARod actually WAS missing from the Yankees lineup for most of last season. At least mentally. But in any case, Coley is totally right about the Braves. If anything, he wasn't harsh enough. That LaRoche trade was brutal for a team that was already offensively challenged. It's not like Mike Gonzalez is going to be the second coming of Mariano Rivera or anything. The Braves are going to be brutally bad this year, unless Andruw goes apeshit in his contract year and hits 85 bombs or something. Haha, I didn’t even notice that ARod was missing when I added Jason Giambi to Coley’s projected lineup and changed the centerfielder’s name from “Matt Damon.” But I guess that’s because ARod actually WAS missing from the Yankees lineup for most of last season. At least mentally.

But in any case, Coley is totally right about the Braves. If anything, he wasn’t harsh enough. That LaRoche trade was brutal for a team that was already offensively challenged. It’s not like Mike Gonzalez is going to be the second coming of Mariano Rivera or anything.

The Braves are going to be brutally bad this year, unless Andruw goes apeshit in his contract year and hits 85 bombs or something.

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]]> By: Sarah Green http://umpbump.com/press/2007/01/20/hot-offseason-action-padres/comment-page-1/#comment-2471 Sarah Green Fri, 19 Jan 2007 20:02:16 +0000 http://www.umpbump.com/press/hot-offseason-action-padres/#comment-2471 Todd, you're right: I forgot to put A-Rod in the Yankees' lineup. My bad. Thanks for pointing it out. On the other hand, I don't see the potential for any young Braves to break out this year, except Jeff Francouer and maybe, MAYBE Ryan Langerhans. And I wouldn't hold my breath. Also, saying that the Braves bullpen is set for the next five years is naive, at best. Relievers are notoriously hard to predict from one year to the next. Plus Wickman is ooooold. Todd, you’re right: I forgot to put A-Rod in the Yankees’ lineup. My bad. Thanks for pointing it out.

On the other hand, I don’t see the potential for any young Braves to break out this year, except Jeff Francouer and maybe, MAYBE Ryan Langerhans. And I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Also, saying that the Braves bullpen is set for the next five years is naive, at best. Relievers are notoriously hard to predict from one year to the next. Plus Wickman is ooooold.

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]]> By: Todd Schuster http://umpbump.com/press/2007/01/20/hot-offseason-action-padres/comment-page-1/#comment-2470 Todd Schuster Fri, 19 Jan 2007 19:51:15 +0000 http://www.umpbump.com/press/hot-offseason-action-padres/#comment-2470 Your credibility is taking some serious shots. You forgot to include ARod in the Yankee's lineup. Add to this the fact that you completely disregard the potential for breakout seasons and development by young players in your offseason recaps (especially in the instance of the braves, id say they did a pretty good job considering that they are set at the closer and setup positions for the next 5 years and that they had to do all this while slashing payroll. ) and you need to look back at your analysis and maybe actually provide some analysis instead of stating the obvious. That being said, I like a lot of your stuff. Your credibility is taking some serious shots. You forgot to include ARod in the Yankee’s lineup. Add to this the fact that you completely disregard the potential for breakout seasons and development by young players in your offseason recaps (especially in the instance of the braves, id say they did a pretty good job considering that they are set at the closer and setup positions for the next 5 years and that they had to do all this while slashing payroll. ) and you need to look back at your analysis and maybe actually provide some analysis instead of stating the obvious. That being said, I like a lot of your stuff.

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