Comments on: Veterans committee gets it wrong the other way now http://umpbump.com/press/2007/02/28/veterans-committee-gets-it-wrong-the-other-way-now/ In-your-face baseball commentary Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:48:13 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2007/02/28/veterans-committee-gets-it-wrong-the-other-way-now/comment-page-1/#comment-58521 Paul Moro Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:30:14 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/veterans-committee-gets-it-wrong-the-other-way-now/#comment-58521 The worst argument against Bert's candidacy has to do with the fact that he won 20 only once, and that he finished in the top-5 in Cy voting only three times, never winning. The best argument is that his career ERA is 3.31 during an era when the average pitcher had a 3.90. Bert's ERA is very good. But it's borderline in comparison with the rest of the league. I for one think that he belongs. His adjusted ERA is 118 and when you combine that with 3700 strikeouts, I think he has a very strong case in proving that he was among the very best of his time. The worst argument against Bert’s candidacy has to do with the fact that he won 20 only once, and that he finished in the top-5 in Cy voting only three times, never winning.

The best argument is that his career ERA is 3.31 during an era when the average pitcher had a 3.90. Bert’s ERA is very good. But it’s borderline in comparison with the rest of the league.

I for one think that he belongs. His adjusted ERA is 118 and when you combine that with 3700 strikeouts, I think he has a very strong case in proving that he was among the very best of his time.

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]]> By: Gary D. http://umpbump.com/press/2007/02/28/veterans-committee-gets-it-wrong-the-other-way-now/comment-page-1/#comment-58520 Gary D. Wed, 25 Feb 2009 03:37:13 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/veterans-committee-gets-it-wrong-the-other-way-now/#comment-58520 can someone please tell me why Blyleven is not in the Hall..better part of 300 wins, even Gaylord Perry in in!! can someone please tell me why Blyleven is not in the Hall..better part of 300 wins, even Gaylord Perry in in!!

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]]> By: Nick Kapur http://umpbump.com/press/2007/02/28/veterans-committee-gets-it-wrong-the-other-way-now/comment-page-1/#comment-52254 Nick Kapur Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:39:52 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/veterans-committee-gets-it-wrong-the-other-way-now/#comment-52254 Sure, Coley. I don't believe that guys like Travis Jackson, George Kell, Tony Lazzeri, Orlando Cepeda, Tony Perez, Freddy Lindstrom, Roger Connor, Rick Ferrell, Hal Newhouser, and Jim Bunning deserve to be in the Hall of Fame, espeicially ahead of guys like Santo, Wills, and Hodges. I also think the Vets Committee under its previous incarnation elected a few too many Negro Leaguers toward the end. That's probably not PC to say, but they way it was set up, the were allowed to elect one regular player and one Negro Leaguer per year and they always elected one from each without fail. Sure, Coley. I don’t believe that guys like Travis Jackson, George Kell, Tony Lazzeri, Orlando Cepeda, Tony Perez, Freddy Lindstrom, Roger Connor, Rick Ferrell, Hal Newhouser, and Jim Bunning deserve to be in the Hall of Fame, espeicially ahead of guys like Santo, Wills, and Hodges.

I also think the Vets Committee under its previous incarnation elected a few too many Negro Leaguers toward the end. That’s probably not PC to say, but they way it was set up, the were allowed to elect one regular player and one Negro Leaguer per year and they always elected one from each without fail.

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]]> By: Coley http://umpbump.com/press/2007/02/28/veterans-committee-gets-it-wrong-the-other-way-now/comment-page-1/#comment-52255 Coley Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:39:09 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/veterans-committee-gets-it-wrong-the-other-way-now/#comment-52255 Nick, can you give some examples of guys who the veteran's committee voted into the Hall of Fame who didn't deserve it? I'm curious. Nick, can you give some examples of guys who the veteran’s committee voted into the Hall of Fame who didn’t deserve it? I’m curious.

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