Comments on: The kings of K http://umpbump.com/press/2007/09/23/the-kings-of-k/ In-your-face baseball commentary Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:48:13 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2007/09/23/the-kings-of-k/comment-page-1/#comment-53136 Paul Moro Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:44:16 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/the-kings-of-k/#comment-53136 I don't mean to sound like a smartass, Brett, but technically, the WORST type of out is the triple play. Obviously, a double play is also worse than a strikeout. And that's something you do need to take into consideration. I'm not saying that strikeouts are benign. If you don't put the ball in play, you have no chance to get a hit. That's not good. But I am saying that just because you strikeout a lot, doesn't make you a bad hitter. Yes, it's a "productive out" if you can move a runner over. But the times that making contact causes a double play, I think, limits the the idea that making contact always produces the better result. I don’t mean to sound like a smartass, Brett, but technically, the WORST type of out is the triple play. Obviously, a double play is also worse than a strikeout. And that’s something you do need to take into consideration. I’m not saying that strikeouts are benign. If you don’t put the ball in play, you have no chance to get a hit. That’s not good. But I am saying that just because you strikeout a lot, doesn’t make you a bad hitter. Yes, it’s a “productive out” if you can move a runner over. But the times that making contact causes a double play, I think, limits the the idea that making contact always produces the better result.

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]]> By: Brett Jackson http://umpbump.com/press/2007/09/23/the-kings-of-k/comment-page-1/#comment-53139 Brett Jackson Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:35:23 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/the-kings-of-k/#comment-53139 That's Cust, not Coley... don't think you played ball, nor struck out that much. Man, I hate seeing my own typos. That’s Cust, not Coley… don’t think you played ball, nor struck out that much.

Man, I hate seeing my own typos.

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]]> By: Brett Jackson http://umpbump.com/press/2007/09/23/the-kings-of-k/comment-page-1/#comment-53138 Brett Jackson Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:32:55 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/the-kings-of-k/#comment-53138 Maybe I'm too "old school", but I disagree with the sentiment that Ks are acceptable as long as the guy puts up good numbers in other areas. Strikeouts are the WORST type of out.. absolutely non productive. Just because I'm a 25 year Phillies fan doesn't mean I give Howard a hall pass on that. 200+ strikeouts is just plain embarrassing. Yes, I know he's driven in plenty of runs this year, but just think of how many more he could have had with a few fly balls when a runner's on third? Or how about just moving a runner up to scoring position and giving another hitter a chance? Howard, Dunn, Granderson, Coley, etc need to take more pride in their game and put the bat on the ball. The old school sluggers like Schmidt (toward the latter third of his career), Mantle, Ruth, and Dimaggio didn't strike out nearly as much, and put plenty of balls over the outfield fence. Maybe I’m too “old school”, but I disagree with the sentiment that Ks are acceptable as long as the guy puts up good numbers in other areas. Strikeouts are the WORST type of out.. absolutely non productive. Just because I’m a 25 year Phillies fan doesn’t mean I give Howard a hall pass on that.

200+ strikeouts is just plain embarrassing. Yes, I know he’s driven in plenty of runs this year, but just think of how many more he could have had with a few fly balls when a runner’s on third? Or how about just moving a runner up to scoring position and giving another hitter a chance?

Howard, Dunn, Granderson, Coley, etc need to take more pride in their game and put the bat on the ball. The old school sluggers like Schmidt (toward the latter third of his career), Mantle, Ruth, and Dimaggio didn’t strike out nearly as much, and put plenty of balls over the outfield fence.

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]]> By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2007/09/23/the-kings-of-k/comment-page-1/#comment-53137 Paul Moro Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:11:23 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/the-kings-of-k/#comment-53137 With so many Ks and no defensive ability whatsoever on his part, kind of makes you wonder what you can learn at the Jack Cust Baseball Academy: http://www.jackcustbaseball.com/ But you're right, Coley. Strikeouts aren't THAT big a deal. It's still not ideal, but it doesn't really affect the outcome of games that often. Ks are only terrible if the hitter has no power. Hit a good amount of homeruns and you'll be ok. If I was an AL team looking for a good DH, I'd take Adam Dunn with his pop for and OBP for $9 mil/per in a heartbeat. With so many Ks and no defensive ability whatsoever on his part, kind of makes you wonder what you can learn at the Jack Cust Baseball Academy: http://www.jackcustbaseball.com/

But you’re right, Coley. Strikeouts aren’t THAT big a deal. It’s still not ideal, but it doesn’t really affect the outcome of games that often. Ks are only terrible if the hitter has no power. Hit a good amount of homeruns and you’ll be ok. If I was an AL team looking for a good DH, I’d take Adam Dunn with his pop for and OBP for $9 mil/per in a heartbeat.

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