Comments on: Dialogue or diatribe? You decide! http://umpbump.com/press/2007/10/25/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/ In-your-face baseball commentary Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:44:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Sarah Green http://umpbump.com/press/2007/10/25/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/comment-page-1/#comment-53587 Sarah Green Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:59:11 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/#comment-53587 Coley, not only was I in the the kitchen, I was barefoot, pregnant, and making my famous Backlash Apple Pie (a pinch of machismo and a dash of raw chauvinism is the key to a good crust). Now I plan to massage my boyfriend's feet while he watches porn. Coley, not only was I in the the kitchen, I was barefoot, pregnant, and making my famous Backlash Apple Pie (a pinch of machismo and a dash of raw chauvinism is the key to a good crust). Now I plan to massage my boyfriend’s feet while he watches porn.

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]]> By: Coley Ward http://umpbump.com/press/2007/10/25/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/comment-page-1/#comment-53586 Coley Ward Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:43:04 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/#comment-53586 Sarah, I hope you typed that comment from the kitchen. Because the blogosphere is no place for a woman. Sarah, I hope you typed that comment from the kitchen. Because the blogosphere is no place for a woman.

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]]> By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2007/10/25/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/comment-page-1/#comment-53585 Paul Moro Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:21:24 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/#comment-53585 Sarah, you win the prize for most "indisputable argument". To this day, I'm still mortified over what he said on air about the Padres physical therapist. Sarah, you win the prize for most “indisputable argument”.

To this day, I’m still mortified over what he said on air about the Padres physical therapist.

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]]> By: Sarah Green http://umpbump.com/press/2007/10/25/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/comment-page-1/#comment-53584 Sarah Green Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:17:20 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/#comment-53584 Well, my problem with Keith Hernandez is his knuckle-dragging views on women. Well, my problem with Keith Hernandez is his knuckle-dragging views on women.

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]]> By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2007/10/25/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/comment-page-1/#comment-53577 Paul Moro Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:28:47 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/#comment-53577 Well Coley, based on your gripe from that game you saw - not sure which one you're talking about - I'm not convinced that this is an example of homerism. Criticizing an aspect of the opposing team isn't homerism. You can disagree with his analysis, but it's different than bias. Suzy Waldman is a homer. Keith has been known to rip into Mets players constantly. Here's a bit from an ariticle from ESPN.com: "The SNY trio is funny, insightful, and -- most importantly -- brutally honest. When the Mets blew yet another pennant race game to the Washington Nationals Tuesday night, Hernandez trashed stars Carlos Delgado and Jose Reyes, holding little back as their defensive gaffes helped New York lose yet another critical contest. Darling willingly chimed in that pitcher Jorge Sosa was inexplicably, inexcusably out of position on a play. It's the sort of stuff fans need to hear" - Jeff Pearlman http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/070926&sportCat=mlb Well Coley, based on your gripe from that game you saw – not sure which one you’re talking about – I’m not convinced that this is an example of homerism. Criticizing an aspect of the opposing team isn’t homerism. You can disagree with his analysis, but it’s different than bias. Suzy Waldman is a homer. Keith has been known to rip into Mets players constantly.

Here’s a bit from an ariticle from ESPN.com:

“The SNY trio is funny, insightful, and — most importantly — brutally honest. When the Mets blew yet another pennant race game to the Washington Nationals Tuesday night, Hernandez trashed stars Carlos Delgado and Jose Reyes, holding little back as their defensive gaffes helped New York lose yet another critical contest. Darling willingly chimed in that pitcher Jorge Sosa was inexplicably, inexcusably out of position on a play. It’s the sort of stuff fans need to hear” – Jeff Pearlman

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=pearlman/070926&sportCat=mlb

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]]> By: Coley http://umpbump.com/press/2007/10/25/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/comment-page-1/#comment-53573 Coley Fri, 26 Oct 2007 16:05:11 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/#comment-53573 Paul, I don't think all rival broadcasters are as bad as Hernandez. In fact, I don't think any are as bad as Hernandez. Maybe you're right. Maybe he is critical of the Mets, in addition to being critical of the visiting team. But the last game that I watched, Hernandez went on and on about how the Phillies bullpen turned in the worst game he'd ever seen. Which may have been true, but probably not. After all, how bad could it have possibly been, since the Phils won that game? Paul, I don’t think all rival broadcasters are as bad as Hernandez. In fact, I don’t think any are as bad as Hernandez. Maybe you’re right. Maybe he is critical of the Mets, in addition to being critical of the visiting team.

But the last game that I watched, Hernandez went on and on about how the Phillies bullpen turned in the worst game he’d ever seen. Which may have been true, but probably not. After all, how bad could it have possibly been, since the Phils won that game?

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]]> By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2007/10/25/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/comment-page-1/#comment-53576 Paul Moro Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:09:31 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/#comment-53576 Coley, I have to disagree to a certain extent. Obviously, Mets broadcasts are targetted for Mets fans. So yes, Keith and Ron Darling are going to spend time talking about their experiences as players on the Mets, and Gary Cohen grew up a Mets fan, which doesn't interest many people aside from their fanbase. But do you actually listen to the things Keith says? I'm not saying that he has neutral interest in the team's success (he obviously wants them to do well), but he is very critical in comparison to other broadcasters. Down the stretch, he pretty much said flat out on air that the Mets were mailing it in. He doesn't try at all to make players seem better than they are. But he picks them apart. Check this article: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2007/07/29/2007-07-29_to_keith_as_to_fans_something_feels_wron.html Basically, you need to give rival broadcasters a break. No Philly fan is going to enjoy listening to mets broadcasts as much as they do Philly's. And the same is true vice versa. Coley, I have to disagree to a certain extent. Obviously, Mets broadcasts are targetted for Mets fans. So yes, Keith and Ron Darling are going to spend time talking about their experiences as players on the Mets, and Gary Cohen grew up a Mets fan, which doesn’t interest many people aside from their fanbase.

But do you actually listen to the things Keith says? I’m not saying that he has neutral interest in the team’s success (he obviously wants them to do well), but he is very critical in comparison to other broadcasters. Down the stretch, he pretty much said flat out on air that the Mets were mailing it in. He doesn’t try at all to make players seem better than they are. But he picks them apart.

Check this article: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/mets/2007/07/29/2007-07-29_to_keith_as_to_fans_something_feels_wron.html

Basically, you need to give rival broadcasters a break. No Philly fan is going to enjoy listening to mets broadcasts as much as they do Philly’s. And the same is true vice versa.

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]]> By: Coley http://umpbump.com/press/2007/10/25/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/comment-page-1/#comment-53575 Coley Fri, 26 Oct 2007 14:49:43 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/#comment-53575 Also, the Mets' broadcasters and in particular Kieth Hernandez are only enjoyable if you're a Mets fan. Their homerism goes way beyond what is normal and acceptable. Also, the Mets’ broadcasters and in particular Kieth Hernandez are only enjoyable if you’re a Mets fan. Their homerism goes way beyond what is normal and acceptable.

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]]> By: Coley http://umpbump.com/press/2007/10/25/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/comment-page-1/#comment-53579 Coley Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:23:07 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/#comment-53579 For my money, there is no better entertainment than Eric Byrnes in a kayak in McCovey Cove with his dog. For my money, there is no better entertainment than Eric Byrnes in a kayak in McCovey Cove with his dog.

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]]> By: Sarah Green http://umpbump.com/press/2007/10/25/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/comment-page-1/#comment-53578 Sarah Green Fri, 26 Oct 2007 03:55:30 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/dialogue-or-diatribe-you-decide/#comment-53578 Yes Leal, your disdain for Zelasko is well-documented. I don't think she adds anything, but at least she doesn't say things like, and I quote, "After you drop the bat, base-running is the most important factor in determining whether you will score." What does that even mean?? Thank you, Tim McCarver! I mean, it's like they're just talking and not thinking. The brain and the mouth are not connected. But Byrnes....I dunno. He had interesting things to say! I felt edumacated. Yes Leal, your disdain for Zelasko is well-documented. I don’t think she adds anything, but at least she doesn’t say things like, and I quote, “After you drop the bat, base-running is the most important factor in determining whether you will score.” What does that even mean?? Thank you, Tim McCarver! I mean, it’s like they’re just talking and not thinking. The brain and the mouth are not connected.

But Byrnes….I dunno. He had interesting things to say! I felt edumacated.

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