Comments on: Jack is back! This time, you should vote for him. http://umpbump.com/press/2007/12/01/jack-is-back-this-time-you-should-vote-for-him/ In-your-face baseball commentary Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:44:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Danny O http://umpbump.com/press/2007/12/01/jack-is-back-this-time-you-should-vote-for-him/comment-page-1/#comment-53983 Danny O Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:16:21 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/jack-is-back-this-time-you-should-vote-for-him/#comment-53983 The Braves' staff has offered up some heroic starts over the years, but Morris' game 7 gem is the finest single game performance by a pitcher in the postseason that I have ever witnessed. The Braves’ staff has offered up some heroic starts over the years, but Morris’ game 7 gem is the finest single game performance by a pitcher in the postseason that I have ever witnessed.

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]]> By: Sarah Green http://umpbump.com/press/2007/12/01/jack-is-back-this-time-you-should-vote-for-him/comment-page-1/#comment-32710 Sarah Green Fri, 09 Nov 2007 13:35:20 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/jack-is-back-this-time-you-should-vote-for-him/#comment-32710 Jojo, no one is saying "only Coco" for Saltalamacchia. I think we all agree that Coco would have to go with prospects and probably cash considerations as well. As for Teagarden, he's also spent signif time coming back from Tommy John surgery according to BP's report on him. Yes, he's a great prospect, but he has yet to break Triple A and he's not quite the stud Salty is. I don't think swapping a AA catcher for a major league, starting centerfielder with Gold Glove defensive ability sounds like too lopsided a deal. The point is, we have an extra centerfielder. They have an extra catcher. They need a centerfielder. We could use a good young catcher. Of course, this is probably all speculation anyway and Theo will trade Coco for, like, Wily Mo Gagne. Jojo, no one is saying “only Coco” for Saltalamacchia. I think we all agree that Coco would have to go with prospects and probably cash considerations as well.

As for Teagarden, he’s also spent signif time coming back from Tommy John surgery according to BP’s report on him. Yes, he’s a great prospect, but he has yet to break Triple A and he’s not quite the stud Salty is. I don’t think swapping a AA catcher for a major league, starting centerfielder with Gold Glove defensive ability sounds like too lopsided a deal. The point is, we have an extra centerfielder. They have an extra catcher. They need a centerfielder. We could use a good young catcher. Of course, this is probably all speculation anyway and Theo will trade Coco for, like, Wily Mo Gagne.

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]]> By: Jojo Fireball http://umpbump.com/press/2007/12/01/jack-is-back-this-time-you-should-vote-for-him/comment-page-1/#comment-32665 Jojo Fireball Fri, 09 Nov 2007 05:11:44 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/jack-is-back-this-time-you-should-vote-for-him/#comment-32665 A couple of things I agree with, and a couple I think are absurd... First of all, Salty is an all star within the next two years... Mark my words. The only reason he wasn't starting behind the plate in Atlanta is because Brian McCann didn't get out for the first two months of the year. Coco is solid defensively and maybe exactly what Texas needs to compliment the pop they already have in their lineup, but he would have to be setup in a package deal with cash and some heavy duty young arms from Boston to pull Salty out of Texas... Secondly, I'm not sure what reports you're reading on Taylor Teagarden but I am looking at 2007 stats for 110 games combined from Hi A and AA and I am seeing 27 jacks with 90 steaks... From my standpoint that's a tab better than minor to average offensive potential. He is actually older than Salty but the reason he isn't starting for a major league right now is because he spent three years at The University of Texas winning a national championship or two. But mark my words he'll be a perennial all star soon as well... And C, Salty and Teagraden can both flat out rake... Boston would be LUCKY to have either of these guys coming in with their respective potential and losing only Coco whose spot would be filled more than adequately by Jacoby Ellsbury... If Jon Daniels is truly entertaining offers like this then Tom Hicks' experiment of hiring a 28 year old gm has started to go South very early... And I really don't even want to warrant the Laird rumors with a response but I'll just say that Gerald Laird, in my opinion will be a bench coach roughly about the same time that Tek will be... A couple of things I agree with, and a couple I think are absurd…

First of all, Salty is an all star within the next two years… Mark my words. The only reason he wasn’t starting behind the plate in Atlanta is because Brian McCann didn’t get out for the first two months of the year. Coco is solid defensively and maybe exactly what Texas needs to compliment the pop they already have in their lineup, but he would have to be setup in a package deal with cash and some heavy duty young arms from Boston to pull Salty out of Texas…

Secondly, I’m not sure what reports you’re reading on Taylor Teagarden but I am looking at 2007 stats for 110 games combined from Hi A and AA and I am seeing 27 jacks with 90 steaks… From my standpoint that’s a tab better than minor to average offensive potential. He is actually older than Salty but the reason he isn’t starting for a major league right now is because he spent three years at The University of Texas winning a national championship or two. But mark my words he’ll be a perennial all star soon as well…

And C, Salty and Teagraden can both flat out rake… Boston would be LUCKY to have either of these guys coming in with their respective potential and losing only Coco whose spot would be filled more than adequately by Jacoby Ellsbury… If Jon Daniels is truly entertaining offers like this then Tom Hicks’ experiment of hiring a 28 year old gm has started to go South very early…

And I really don’t even want to warrant the Laird rumors with a response but I’ll just say that Gerald Laird, in my opinion will be a bench coach roughly about the same time that Tek will be…

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]]> By: Coley http://umpbump.com/press/2007/12/01/jack-is-back-this-time-you-should-vote-for-him/comment-page-1/#comment-32663 Coley Fri, 09 Nov 2007 05:02:45 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/jack-is-back-this-time-you-should-vote-for-him/#comment-32663 Coco for a prospect like Teagarden makes much more sense. Coco for a prospect like Teagarden makes much more sense.

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]]> By: Sarah Green http://umpbump.com/press/2007/12/01/jack-is-back-this-time-you-should-vote-for-him/comment-page-1/#comment-32655 Sarah Green Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:49:33 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/jack-is-back-this-time-you-should-vote-for-him/#comment-32655 Well, Coley, the Red Sox aren't shopping Ellsbury. That's the whole point of dumping Crisp. Plus, you'll note that I already said above that there was no way the Rangers would accept a one-to-one trade of Crisp for Saltalamacchia. However, the Red Sox have plenty of younger prospects to offer the Rangers, including pitchers, as part of a package with Crisp. I only see them sending pitching the Rangers' way, however, if they wanted to use Salty as a full-time player in the immediate future, which I don't, really, given Varitek's incumbency. I would actually think (since the Globe couldn't tell *which* Texas catcher the inquiry was about) that you might see a trade of Crisp for Rangers' prospect Taylor Teagarden, their 8th-ranked prospect. He's a young catcher regarded as having great defensive ability and some offensive potential, and he could be ready just in time for Tek's retirement. Well, Coley, the Red Sox aren’t shopping Ellsbury. That’s the whole point of dumping Crisp. Plus, you’ll note that I already said above that there was no way the Rangers would accept a one-to-one trade of Crisp for Saltalamacchia. However, the Red Sox have plenty of younger prospects to offer the Rangers, including pitchers, as part of a package with Crisp. I only see them sending pitching the Rangers’ way, however, if they wanted to use Salty as a full-time player in the immediate future, which I don’t, really, given Varitek’s incumbency. I would actually think (since the Globe couldn’t tell *which* Texas catcher the inquiry was about) that you might see a trade of Crisp for Rangers’ prospect Taylor Teagarden, their 8th-ranked prospect. He’s a young catcher regarded as having great defensive ability and some offensive potential, and he could be ready just in time for Tek’s retirement.

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]]> By: coley http://umpbump.com/press/2007/12/01/jack-is-back-this-time-you-should-vote-for-him/comment-page-1/#comment-32653 coley Fri, 09 Nov 2007 02:27:10 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/jack-is-back-this-time-you-should-vote-for-him/#comment-32653 Sarah, if the Sox get Salty for Coco, then the Rangers franchise ought to be contracted. That would be a horrible, horrible trade for Texas. They just traded Mark Teixeira, who is a bonefide all-star, for Salty. And now they're going to turn around and deal Salty for Coco Crisp, who will never, EVER, make an all-star team? The only way Texas deals Salty to the Sox is if they get Ellsbury, Lester, or an equally talented young player in return. Sarah, if the Sox get Salty for Coco, then the Rangers franchise ought to be contracted. That would be a horrible, horrible trade for Texas. They just traded Mark Teixeira, who is a bonefide all-star, for Salty. And now they’re going to turn around and deal Salty for Coco Crisp, who will never, EVER, make an all-star team?

The only way Texas deals Salty to the Sox is if they get Ellsbury, Lester, or an equally talented young player in return.

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