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		<title>By: Steve Slowinski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Slowinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, they also got Trevor Miller to go along with Percival and while he&#039;s not amazing, used in situations with lefties up there, he&#039;s a pretty solid pitcher.



The addition of Percival as closer also bumps everyone down in the bullpen, making pitchers actually pitching in spots where they should be.  Al Reyes is not a closer (though he did an ok just there last year), but he&#039;s got the stuff to be a pretty solid set up man.



The addition of Dan Wheeler at the all-star break last year cannot be ignored.  Dan Wheeler is friggin&#039; awesome.  I don&#039;t care about his stats from last year...if you look at his career stats, last year was a complete anomalie.  Maybe he won&#039;t have a sub-3 ERA this year, but I highly doubt it&#039;ll be above 4 again.  He&#039;s been lights out all throughout his career and he&#039;s still young.  In my mind, he&#039;s the rock in this bullpen at the moment.  With him, Percival, and Reyes...to be honest, I feel like that&#039;s a dominant trio.  At the very least, it&#039;s league average.  And for the Rays, that&#039;s a huge improvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, they also got Trevor Miller to go along with Percival and while he&#8217;s not amazing, used in situations with lefties up there, he&#8217;s a pretty solid pitcher.</p>
<p>The addition of Percival as closer also bumps everyone down in the bullpen, making pitchers actually pitching in spots where they should be.  Al Reyes is not a closer (though he did an ok just there last year), but he&#8217;s got the stuff to be a pretty solid set up man.</p>
<p>The addition of Dan Wheeler at the all-star break last year cannot be ignored.  Dan Wheeler is friggin&#8217; awesome.  I don&#8217;t care about his stats from last year&#8230;if you look at his career stats, last year was a complete anomalie.  Maybe he won&#8217;t have a sub-3 ERA this year, but I highly doubt it&#8217;ll be above 4 again.  He&#8217;s been lights out all throughout his career and he&#8217;s still young.  In my mind, he&#8217;s the rock in this bullpen at the moment.  With him, Percival, and Reyes&#8230;to be honest, I feel like that&#8217;s a dominant trio.  At the very least, it&#8217;s league average.  And for the Rays, that&#8217;s a huge improvement.
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		<title>By: Steve Slowinski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Slowinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To begin with, I believe that trying to make Sonnanstine out to be on the same level as Jackson is rather disappointing.  Looking at the stats, Sonnanstine is primed for a breakout year, much the same way that Jamie Shields was last year.  He&#039;s put up amazing numbers in the minors and last year was his first experience at all in the majors.  If you look at his WHIP (which is normally a good indicator of if a pitcher is throwing above or below their ability level), Sonny had a very respectable WHIP of 1.35.  Jackson, on the other hand, had a WHIP of 1.76.  To me, this shows that Sonny has the ability and for the most part, his inflated ERA was a result of bad luck and learning the league.  His ERA will go down with time...to be honest, I&#039;m more confident of him going into this year than I am of Garza.  But that&#039;s just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To begin with, I believe that trying to make Sonnanstine out to be on the same level as Jackson is rather disappointing.  Looking at the stats, Sonnanstine is primed for a breakout year, much the same way that Jamie Shields was last year.  He&#8217;s put up amazing numbers in the minors and last year was his first experience at all in the majors.  If you look at his WHIP (which is normally a good indicator of if a pitcher is throwing above or below their ability level), Sonny had a very respectable WHIP of 1.35.  Jackson, on the other hand, had a WHIP of 1.76.  To me, this shows that Sonny has the ability and for the most part, his inflated ERA was a result of bad luck and learning the league.  His ERA will go down with time&#8230;to be honest, I&#8217;m more confident of him going into this year than I am of Garza.  But that&#8217;s just me.
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		<title>By: Sarah Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having already noted that the Rays still need bullpen help in the post, I obviously agree with you there.



Kazmir, Shields, and Garza are a respectable  first three. And given the timeline we&#039;re talking about for this team, I&#039;d say a ballclub that is stacked with excellent pitching prospects who will be ready in the next one-to-two years has &quot;addressed&quot; its problem in that area, yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having already noted that the Rays still need bullpen help in the post, I obviously agree with you there.</p>
<p>Kazmir, Shields, and Garza are a respectable  first three. And given the timeline we&#8217;re talking about for this team, I&#8217;d say a ballclub that is stacked with excellent pitching prospects who will be ready in the next one-to-two years has &#8220;addressed&#8221; its problem in that area, yes.
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		<title>By: Nick Kapur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Kapur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, that&#039;s a good point about Morlan - I had forgotten about him, and he will most likely be in their bullpen come April.



But as for the other prospects, while it is true that David Price, Wade Davis, and Jacob McGee are all highly regarded pitching prospects, neither Davis nor McGee has pitched above AA ball, and Price has yet to throw a pitch in the pros. As far as I&#039;ve heard, none of these guys is projected to make the major league team this season. As you rightly point out, these guys could well make appearances for the Rays in 2009, but to say they can be &quot;staples of the rotation&quot; by next year would be a stretch. Actually, the last I heard on Davis, they were thinking of him as maybe more of a closer.



The Rays pitcher who is actually the closest to the majors right now is Chris Mason, who also has not pitched above AA, and is the least regarded of the four, but had a breakout campaign last year, and has far more experience, having at least a whole year at AA, whereas Davis and McGee only just made it to AA at the end of last season.



The Rays actually also have two other high-ceiling pitching prospects in Jeremy Hellickson and Jeff Niemann, but Hellickson is still in A ball, and Niemann has been wracked by arm injuries of late, making the bullpen his likely destination.



So yeah, saying that the Rays have &quot;addressed&quot; their pitching is kind of an overstatement, since they haven&#039;t really done much of anything this offseason outside of the Garza trade, and these prospects were already there before, and most importantly, these prospects are not ready yet.



As of right now, the Rays starting rotation projects as:



Kazmir

Shields

Garza

Andy Sonnanstine (6-10, 5.85)

Edwin Jackson (5-15, 5.76)



and the bullpen projects as Percival, Morlan, Al Reyes, and then pray for a hurricane (6.16 ERA last year with 605 hits allowed in 497 innings).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s a good point about Morlan &#8211; I had forgotten about him, and he will most likely be in their bullpen come April.</p>
<p>But as for the other prospects, while it is true that David Price, Wade Davis, and Jacob McGee are all highly regarded pitching prospects, neither Davis nor McGee has pitched above AA ball, and Price has yet to throw a pitch in the pros. As far as I&#8217;ve heard, none of these guys is projected to make the major league team this season. As you rightly point out, these guys could well make appearances for the Rays in 2009, but to say they can be &#8220;staples of the rotation&#8221; by next year would be a stretch. Actually, the last I heard on Davis, they were thinking of him as maybe more of a closer.</p>
<p>The Rays pitcher who is actually the closest to the majors right now is Chris Mason, who also has not pitched above AA, and is the least regarded of the four, but had a breakout campaign last year, and has far more experience, having at least a whole year at AA, whereas Davis and McGee only just made it to AA at the end of last season.</p>
<p>The Rays actually also have two other high-ceiling pitching prospects in Jeremy Hellickson and Jeff Niemann, but Hellickson is still in A ball, and Niemann has been wracked by arm injuries of late, making the bullpen his likely destination.</p>
<p>So yeah, saying that the Rays have &#8220;addressed&#8221; their pitching is kind of an overstatement, since they haven&#8217;t really done much of anything this offseason outside of the Garza trade, and these prospects were already there before, and most importantly, these prospects are not ready yet.</p>
<p>As of right now, the Rays starting rotation projects as:</p>
<p>Kazmir</p>
<p>Shields</p>
<p>Garza</p>
<p>Andy Sonnanstine (6-10, 5.85)</p>
<p>Edwin Jackson (5-15, 5.76)</p>
<p>and the bullpen projects as Percival, Morlan, Al Reyes, and then pray for a hurricane (6.16 ERA last year with 605 hits allowed in 497 innings).
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		<title>By: Sarah Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 15:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Among the Rays&#039; top ten prospects, 6 are pitchers. This list includes lefty David Price, the 1st pick in the 2007 draft, as well as Wade Davis and Jake McGee, who are both nearly major leagues-ready. It&#039;s also worth mentioning that they acquired pitching prospect Eduardo Morlan in the deal for Garza, who has a plus slider and a wicked fastball that tops out at 97 mph, though he still needs to work on his ability to locate it.

As for those nearly-ready pitching prospects, McGee has an electric fastball and Davis burned through Single A and Double A with his wicked curve. Price, though he was just drafted last year, is already a polished pitcher who has two plus pitches and great command. The Rays expect all three to be ready to be staples of the rotation by 2009.

For what it&#039;s worth, the Rays&#039; farm system has been ranked first in the majors by Baseball America for the past two years running.

Or did you expect them to sign Johan Santana?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Among the Rays&#8217; top ten prospects, 6 are pitchers. This list includes lefty David Price, the 1st pick in the 2007 draft, as well as Wade Davis and Jake McGee, who are both nearly major leagues-ready. It&#8217;s also worth mentioning that they acquired pitching prospect Eduardo Morlan in the deal for Garza, who has a plus slider and a wicked fastball that tops out at 97 mph, though he still needs to work on his ability to locate it.</p>
<p>As for those nearly-ready pitching prospects, McGee has an electric fastball and Davis burned through Single A and Double A with his wicked curve. Price, though he was just drafted last year, is already a polished pitcher who has two plus pitches and great command. The Rays expect all three to be ready to be staples of the rotation by 2009.</p>
<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, the Rays&#8217; farm system has been ranked first in the majors by Baseball America for the past two years running.</p>
<p>Or did you expect them to sign Johan Santana?
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		<title>By: Nick Kapur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Kapur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah, in what way have the Rays &quot;already addressed their pitching needs&quot;???



Saying something a billion times doesn&#039;t make it true, if it&#039;s not true.



The Rays have added exactly TWO (2) pitchers this offseason - Troy Percival, who is a 39-year-old relief pitcher with degenerative arthritis in his hip, and Matt Garza, who is perhaps a major-league average starting pitcher at best this year.



If you think that adding just those two pitchers qualifies as &quot;already having addressed&quot; the needs of a pitching staff that posted a &lt;i&gt;Major League Worst&lt;/i&gt; 5.53 ERA last season, than I&#039;d hate to see what &quot;need&quot; the Rays still have that is more even pressing than pitching, because it must be something truly insatiable, like a newborn babe must be sacrificed to a malevolent Everglades spirit every fortnight or something.



But seriously, if you really think the Rays still have a need more pressing than pitching, I&#039;d be really interested to know what it is.  I&#039;m sure you don&#039;t think they have filled all their needs and are fully primed to run away with the AL East this season...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah, in what way have the Rays &#8220;already addressed their pitching needs&#8221;???</p>
<p>Saying something a billion times doesn&#8217;t make it true, if it&#8217;s not true.</p>
<p>The Rays have added exactly TWO (2) pitchers this offseason &#8211; Troy Percival, who is a 39-year-old relief pitcher with degenerative arthritis in his hip, and Matt Garza, who is perhaps a major-league average starting pitcher at best this year.</p>
<p>If you think that adding just those two pitchers qualifies as &#8220;already having addressed&#8221; the needs of a pitching staff that posted a <i>Major League Worst</i> 5.53 ERA last season, than I&#8217;d hate to see what &#8220;need&#8221; the Rays still have that is more even pressing than pitching, because it must be something truly insatiable, like a newborn babe must be sacrificed to a malevolent Everglades spirit every fortnight or something.</p>
<p>But seriously, if you really think the Rays still have a need more pressing than pitching, I&#8217;d be really interested to know what it is.  I&#8217;m sure you don&#8217;t think they have filled all their needs and are fully primed to run away with the AL East this season&#8230;
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		<title>By: Sarah Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, as I&#039;ve said about a billion times now, THE RAYS HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED THEIR PITCHING NEEDS. This post was called &quot;what they still need&quot; not &quot;what they needed last year at this time.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, as I&#8217;ve said about a billion times now, THE RAYS HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED THEIR PITCHING NEEDS. This post was called &#8220;what they still need&#8221; not &#8220;what they needed last year at this time.&#8221;
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		<title>By: Nick Kapur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Kapur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 13:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I don&#039;t think the Rays missed the playoffs last year because they lacked &quot;hoary wisdom.&quot; They missed the playoffs because they were last in the American League in team ERA. And it wasn&#039;t even close.



Unless Tony Clark can teach guys how to throw nasty sinkers or something, I&#039;m not sure how much good he would do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I don&#8217;t think the Rays missed the playoffs last year because they lacked &#8220;hoary wisdom.&#8221; They missed the playoffs because they were last in the American League in team ERA. And it wasn&#8217;t even close.</p>
<p>Unless Tony Clark can teach guys how to throw nasty sinkers or something, I&#8217;m not sure how much good he would do.
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		<title>By: Sarah Green</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the Rays have some good starting pitching prospects, though, as well! I think they&#039;re  ranked first in Baseball America&#039;s young talent index, or whatever the heck it&#039;s called. I just hope they get something going before Kazmir bolts. That would be sad. Yes, maybe instead of &quot;hoary wisdom&quot; the Rays just need &quot;24 months.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the Rays have some good starting pitching prospects, though, as well! I think they&#8217;re  ranked first in Baseball America&#8217;s young talent index, or whatever the heck it&#8217;s called. I just hope they get something going before Kazmir bolts. That would be sad. Yes, maybe instead of &#8220;hoary wisdom&#8221; the Rays just need &#8220;24 months.&#8221;
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		<title>By: Paul Moro</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:04:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Rays need time. And they need their young guys to stay healthy to gain experience. They don&#039;t have a shot in hell in 2008, but they have a shot in 2010.

And I&#039;d love to see what a healthy Rocco Baldelli can do - if he ever COULD stay healthy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Rays need time. And they need their young guys to stay healthy to gain experience. They don&#8217;t have a shot in hell in 2008, but they have a shot in 2010.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;d love to see what a healthy Rocco Baldelli can do &#8211; if he ever COULD stay healthy.
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