Comments on: What They STILL Need: NL East http://umpbump.com/press/2008/01/15/what-they-still-need-nl-east/ In-your-face baseball commentary Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:48:13 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2008/01/15/what-they-still-need-nl-east/comment-page-1/#comment-54401 Paul Moro Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:33:06 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/what-they-still-need-nl-east/#comment-54401 Coley, that's an yes and no situation. Yes, it's hard for any pitcher to do as poorly as Eaton did last year w/o bad luck. With that said, his Ks were down and his walks were up. Bad combo. His BABiP wasn't any worse than his career norms. His fielding independent ERA was still 5.93. Most indicators show that his poor performance wasn't a glitch. Coley, that’s an yes and no situation. Yes, it’s hard for any pitcher to do as poorly as Eaton did last year w/o bad luck. With that said, his Ks were down and his walks were up. Bad combo. His BABiP wasn’t any worse than his career norms. His fielding independent ERA was still 5.93. Most indicators show that his poor performance wasn’t a glitch.

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]]> By: Coley Ward http://umpbump.com/press/2008/01/15/what-they-still-need-nl-east/comment-page-1/#comment-54400 Coley Ward Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:54:39 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/what-they-still-need-nl-east/#comment-54400 Regarding Eaton, it's hard to argue that he doesn't suck. But, according to Roto Authority, he was one of the unluckiest pitchers in 2007. So maybe he'll do better this season? Oh, who am I kidding? Regarding Eaton, it’s hard to argue that he doesn’t suck. But, according to Roto Authority, he was one of the unluckiest pitchers in 2007. So maybe he’ll do better this season?

Oh, who am I kidding?

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]]> By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2008/01/15/what-they-still-need-nl-east/comment-page-1/#comment-54399 Paul Moro Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:46:47 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/what-they-still-need-nl-east/#comment-54399 There's a case to be made for both sides. One, even if Dmitri won't bring much back, his trade value isn't going to get any higher. On the other, no one yet knows how Johnson will perform after being gone for so long. A healthy Nick Johnson will most likely outperform Dmitri Young. Even with that odd contract extension, Young is $1m cheaper over the next two years. And no offense to Johnson, but if you want someone to help bring along Milledge and Dukes, then Young I think has a better shot than Johnson because he's more relatable. Yes, I just mentioned Dmitri Young as a potential role model. What is this world coming to? There’s a case to be made for both sides. One, even if Dmitri won’t bring much back, his trade value isn’t going to get any higher. On the other, no one yet knows how Johnson will perform after being gone for so long.

A healthy Nick Johnson will most likely outperform Dmitri Young. Even with that odd contract extension, Young is $1m cheaper over the next two years. And no offense to Johnson, but if you want someone to help bring along Milledge and Dukes, then Young I think has a better shot than Johnson because he’s more relatable. Yes, I just mentioned Dmitri Young as a potential role model. What is this world coming to?

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]]> By: Coley Ward http://umpbump.com/press/2008/01/15/what-they-still-need-nl-east/comment-page-1/#comment-54398 Coley Ward Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:20:50 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/what-they-still-need-nl-east/#comment-54398 I'm really curious what Bowden will do regarding Nick Johnson and Dmitri Young. We learned at the trade deadline last season there isn't much of a demand for Young. And I can't imagine there will be much more demand for Johnson, who is coming off a horrific broken leg. Yet, one of them has to go, right? I’m really curious what Bowden will do regarding Nick Johnson and Dmitri Young. We learned at the trade deadline last season there isn’t much of a demand for Young. And I can’t imagine there will be much more demand for Johnson, who is coming off a horrific broken leg. Yet, one of them has to go, right?

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]]> By: Sarah Green http://umpbump.com/press/2008/01/15/what-they-still-need-nl-east/comment-page-1/#comment-54397 Sarah Green Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:56:12 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/what-they-still-need-nl-east/#comment-54397 Well, CC is a beast. I mean, look at him. He's built like a walrus. Well, CC is a beast. I mean, look at him. He’s built like a walrus.

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]]> By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2008/01/15/what-they-still-need-nl-east/comment-page-1/#comment-54396 Paul Moro Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:47:53 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/what-they-still-need-nl-east/#comment-54396 It's an example of what COULD happen, for sure. The problem is is that no one can really guess what "overwork" means, exactly. It really is a case-by-case basis. Some guys can handle 200 innings. Some can't. C.C. Sabathia threw over 180 innings his rookie year and followed it up with a 210 inning sophomore campaign. Hasn't failed to his the 188 inning mark since. But he's pretty much a freak and it's difficult to guess who fits into which category. But I do agree with you generally speaking. For one reason or other (marketing potential, pressure of a pennant race, etc), young pitchers are relied on too heavily and they pay the price every now and then. It’s an example of what COULD happen, for sure. The problem is is that no one can really guess what “overwork” means, exactly. It really is a case-by-case basis. Some guys can handle 200 innings. Some can’t. C.C. Sabathia threw over 180 innings his rookie year and followed it up with a 210 inning sophomore campaign. Hasn’t failed to his the 188 inning mark since. But he’s pretty much a freak and it’s difficult to guess who fits into which category.

But I do agree with you generally speaking. For one reason or other (marketing potential, pressure of a pennant race, etc), young pitchers are relied on too heavily and they pay the price every now and then.

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]]> By: Sarah Green http://umpbump.com/press/2008/01/15/what-they-still-need-nl-east/comment-page-1/#comment-54395 Sarah Green Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:31:44 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/what-they-still-need-nl-east/#comment-54395 Isn't Anibal Sanchez's injury last year just the perfect example of what happens to a young pitcher when you overwork him before he's ready? Isn’t Anibal Sanchez’s injury last year just the perfect example of what happens to a young pitcher when you overwork him before he’s ready?

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