Comments on: Apparently the entire Cubs front office are morons http://umpbump.com/press/2008/01/24/apparently-the-entire-cubs-front-office-are-morons/ In-your-face baseball commentary Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:33:22 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Jack http://umpbump.com/press/2008/01/24/apparently-the-entire-cubs-front-office-are-morons/comment-page-1/#comment-54500 Jack Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:11:56 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/apparently-the-entire-cubs-front-office-are-morons/#comment-54500 With McDonough gone, the head guy is Crane Kenney, boy did he make an impression, unfortunately it's the stupid kind. Clearly, this guy has no idea, he should be embarrassed, tribune should be embarrassed, in fact Kenney should be fired! This "Jap" will not be going to Cubs games, it's just stupid, stupid. Do your research, get on the internet and look things up, the agency that did these ads should be FIRED on the spot just for their stupidity alone. With the internet age, their is no excuse, the internet is your research department! With McDonough gone, the head guy is Crane Kenney, boy did he make an impression, unfortunately it’s the stupid kind. Clearly, this guy has no idea, he should be embarrassed, tribune should be embarrassed, in fact Kenney should be fired! This “Jap” will not be going to Cubs games, it’s just stupid, stupid. Do your research, get on the internet and look things up, the agency that did these ads should be FIRED on the spot just for their stupidity alone. With the internet age, their is no excuse, the internet is your research department!

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]]> By: melissa http://umpbump.com/press/2008/01/24/apparently-the-entire-cubs-front-office-are-morons/comment-page-1/#comment-54499 melissa Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:24:59 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/apparently-the-entire-cubs-front-office-are-morons/#comment-54499 This issue has not been over-looked or minimized by all of Chicago media. Jay Mariotti is not the go to guy for the barometer of this city, most people here think he is a moron. Hosts on the local sports talk station 670 AM have derided this ad and called the Cubs marketing out on it. Fans have also spoke out that it was ignorant and insensitive. The Cubs lost their President and former marketing guru John McDonough earlier this winter and this was most likely was an error of ignorance. The corporate monolith that is the Tribune Company does not like to attach itself to anything that is the least bit controversial. I fully expect them to halt the promotion of this flag, apologize for their error and most likely fire the ad agency responsible. While I don't think this flag is as notorious as a swastika, at least not here in the U.S., it is still offensive and represents tyranny. It is an absolutely inexcusable error by the ad agency and someone at Trib Co. should have caught it. I would definitely say they are guilty of ignorance and not intentional promotion of an evil empire. This issue has not been over-looked or minimized by all of Chicago media. Jay Mariotti is not the go to guy for the barometer of this city, most people here think he is a moron. Hosts on the local sports talk station 670 AM have derided this ad and called the Cubs marketing out on it. Fans have also spoke out that it was ignorant and insensitive. The Cubs lost their President and former marketing guru John McDonough earlier this winter and this was most likely was an error of ignorance. The corporate monolith that is the Tribune Company does not like to attach itself to anything that is the least bit controversial. I fully expect them to halt the promotion of this flag, apologize for their error and most likely fire the ad agency responsible. While I don’t think this flag is as notorious as a swastika, at least not here in the U.S., it is still offensive and represents tyranny. It is an absolutely inexcusable error by the ad agency and someone at Trib Co. should have caught it. I would definitely say they are guilty of ignorance and not intentional promotion of an evil empire.

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]]> By: Rich http://umpbump.com/press/2008/01/24/apparently-the-entire-cubs-front-office-are-morons/comment-page-1/#comment-54498 Rich Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:15:24 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/apparently-the-entire-cubs-front-office-are-morons/#comment-54498 My first thought too, Zoner. My first thought too, Zoner.

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]]> By: Margaret http://umpbump.com/press/2008/01/24/apparently-the-entire-cubs-front-office-are-morons/comment-page-1/#comment-54497 Margaret Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:55:33 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/apparently-the-entire-cubs-front-office-are-morons/#comment-54497 Absolutely agree. Excellent entry Nick. And Sarah, I was a little weirded out by those posters too. Speaking of Youkilis, by the way, I finally caught up on reading my sister's SI subscription, and found that Youk's Slumpbuster had achieved being noted as a Sign of the Apocalypse. Go Sox. Absolutely agree. Excellent entry Nick.

And Sarah, I was a little weirded out by those posters too.

Speaking of Youkilis, by the way, I finally caught up on reading my sister’s SI subscription, and found that Youk’s Slumpbuster had achieved being noted as a Sign of the Apocalypse. Go Sox.

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]]> By: Sarah Green http://umpbump.com/press/2008/01/24/apparently-the-entire-cubs-front-office-are-morons/comment-page-1/#comment-54496 Sarah Green Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:43:56 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/apparently-the-entire-cubs-front-office-are-morons/#comment-54496 Interestingly, Nick, I nearly blogged about a similar phenomenon back in October, when a Somerville artist got a very flattering write-up in the Globe for designing and silk-screening Red Sox posters made to look like WWII propaganda. (You can see his work by <a href="http://sportspropaganda.com/product.html#" rel="nofollow">clicking here</a>.) He has a very similar poster of Matsuzaka, which includes an even more explicit reference to the old flag, and the tagline: "VICTORY! Through strength of arms." But what bothered me most about the article, and the artist, is that there was absolutely no sensitivity at all to actual war or warfare---just delight over how "kitschy" and "retro" the posters were. I admit, they are attractively designed, and even witty (the Youkilis poster reads, "Homegrown means more PRODUCTION!"). But I could never feel comfortable with something like that on my wall. Interestingly, Nick, I nearly blogged about a similar phenomenon back in October, when a Somerville artist got a very flattering write-up in the Globe for designing and silk-screening Red Sox posters made to look like WWII propaganda. (You can see his work by clicking here.) He has a very similar poster of Matsuzaka, which includes an even more explicit reference to the old flag, and the tagline: “VICTORY! Through strength of arms.” But what bothered me most about the article, and the artist, is that there was absolutely no sensitivity at all to actual war or warfare—just delight over how “kitschy” and “retro” the posters were. I admit, they are attractively designed, and even witty (the Youkilis poster reads, “Homegrown means more PRODUCTION!”). But I could never feel comfortable with something like that on my wall.

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]]> By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2008/01/24/apparently-the-entire-cubs-front-office-are-morons/comment-page-1/#comment-54495 Paul Moro Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:30:55 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/apparently-the-entire-cubs-front-office-are-morons/#comment-54495 That's actually an apt comparison, Zoner. Most Americans want to distance themselves from the Confederate flag because it represents a portion of their country's history that is particularly embarrassing and reprehensible. And that's pretty much the way that a lot of us Japanese people feel about the Imperial flag. Even a lot of the older generation who served in the war have a good deal of regret over what their country had asked them to do. For them, things like this is a painful reminder. For us younger Japanese people, it's fairly recent history that we didn't live through, but is still strangely a burden. We can't run away from it (and shouldn't, really because that's just trying to pretend it never happened), but wish we could. My knowledge of MLB's PR machine is minimal, but I'd like to think that they let the players and agents look at things like this before it's made public... That’s actually an apt comparison, Zoner. Most Americans want to distance themselves from the Confederate flag because it represents a portion of their country’s history that is particularly embarrassing and reprehensible. And that’s pretty much the way that a lot of us Japanese people feel about the Imperial flag. Even a lot of the older generation who served in the war have a good deal of regret over what their country had asked them to do. For them, things like this is a painful reminder. For us younger Japanese people, it’s fairly recent history that we didn’t live through, but is still strangely a burden. We can’t run away from it (and shouldn’t, really because that’s just trying to pretend it never happened), but wish we could.

My knowledge of MLB’s PR machine is minimal, but I’d like to think that they let the players and agents look at things like this before it’s made public…

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]]> By: The Zoner http://umpbump.com/press/2008/01/24/apparently-the-entire-cubs-front-office-are-morons/comment-page-1/#comment-54494 The Zoner Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:05:16 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/apparently-the-entire-cubs-front-office-are-morons/#comment-54494 Awesome stuff. Maybe it would be like an American playing in Japan with the Confederate flag in the ad. Awesome stuff. Maybe it would be like an American playing in Japan with the Confederate flag in the ad.

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