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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I&#039;m dreaming, it would be a salary dump. Pagan sucks, a 5th OF is being kind, he&#039;s not even major league talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I&#8217;m dreaming, it would be a salary dump. Pagan sucks, a 5th OF is being kind, he&#8217;s not even major league talent.
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		<title>By: melissa</title>
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		<dc:creator>melissa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you could get Coco for Angel the Cubs certainly wouldn&#039;t have traded him to the Mets. I think Doug is engaged in wishful thinking.  Paul, I think you really hit the nail on the head when you called Pagan a 5th outfielder.  That is exactly what he is.  An above average fielder with good speed that can pinch run or hit and be a late defensive replacement.  I happen to think Chavez is actually a better player though.  When guys get healthy I wouldn&#039;t think there would be room on the roster for both of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you could get Coco for Angel the Cubs certainly wouldn&#8217;t have traded him to the Mets. I think Doug is engaged in wishful thinking.  Paul, I think you really hit the nail on the head when you called Pagan a 5th outfielder.  That is exactly what he is.  An above average fielder with good speed that can pinch run or hit and be a late defensive replacement.  I happen to think Chavez is actually a better player though.  When guys get healthy I wouldn&#8217;t think there would be room on the roster for both of them.
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		<title>By: Paul Moro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Moro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 15:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, it ain&#039;t happening. Never was a possibility to begin with, and as far as I can tell, neither side talked to each other at all about this. Some dude made it up. There&#039;s nothing Omar can do to push this through because there&#039;s just no way that the Red Sox wouldn&#039;t be able to find a better offer than Angel Pagan. It&#039;s Angel Pagan for god&#039;s sakes. For Coco??? Not happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, it ain&#8217;t happening. Never was a possibility to begin with, and as far as I can tell, neither side talked to each other at all about this. Some dude made it up. There&#8217;s nothing Omar can do to push this through because there&#8217;s just no way that the Red Sox wouldn&#8217;t be able to find a better offer than Angel Pagan. It&#8217;s Angel Pagan for god&#8217;s sakes. For Coco??? Not happening.
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pagan going to the Sox for Coco, make it happen Minaya!</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Moro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Moro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re being a bit too hard on Heilman. As relievers go, for the last three years, the guy&#039;s been good. I just looked at pitchers who have appeared in at least 150 games over the last 3 seasons (so basically we&#039;re only looking at relievers here). Heilman&#039;s 3.27 ERA over that span is  27th. Not amazing, but good. But what&#039;s unusual about Heilman is the consistency he&#039;s displayed thus far in his career. It&#039;s really easy for a reliever to irreparably damage his ERA for the entire year because they pitch so few innings. A couple of horrendous outings and there you go. Your ERA skyrockets. But over the last three seasons, Heilman&#039;s worst ERA is 3.62, which really isn&#039;t terrible.

I guess what I&#039;m trying to say here is that I like the guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re being a bit too hard on Heilman. As relievers go, for the last three years, the guy&#8217;s been good. I just looked at pitchers who have appeared in at least 150 games over the last 3 seasons (so basically we&#8217;re only looking at relievers here). Heilman&#8217;s 3.27 ERA over that span is  27th. Not amazing, but good. But what&#8217;s unusual about Heilman is the consistency he&#8217;s displayed thus far in his career. It&#8217;s really easy for a reliever to irreparably damage his ERA for the entire year because they pitch so few innings. A couple of horrendous outings and there you go. Your ERA skyrockets. But over the last three seasons, Heilman&#8217;s worst ERA is 3.62, which really isn&#8217;t terrible.</p>
<p>I guess what I&#8217;m trying to say here is that I like the guy.
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		<title>By: PimpDaddyWelfare</title>
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		<dc:creator>PimpDaddyWelfare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you 100%. But as a lifelong Mets fan I can&#039;t help but hope this kid does something. I&#039;d be happy if he got like 300 ab hit .260-.270 and drove in around 30-40 runs. As long as he helps the Mets and doesn&#039;t hurt them I&#039;m right behind this kid supporting him...


if only we would trade Heilman... every time that guy is on the mound I feel like we lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you 100%. But as a lifelong Mets fan I can&#8217;t help but hope this kid does something. I&#8217;d be happy if he got like 300 ab hit .260-.270 and drove in around 30-40 runs. As long as he helps the Mets and doesn&#8217;t hurt them I&#8217;m right behind this kid supporting him&#8230;</p>
<p>if only we would trade Heilman&#8230; every time that guy is on the mound I feel like we lost.
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		<title>By: Paul Moro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Moro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 18:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s interesting, Tim. But what were the differentials between their slugging and batting averages? How many XBHs are we talking here?

Because Pagan has had 5 out of his 18 spring training hits (27.7%) go for extra bases. For his MLB career, it&#039;s 29 XBH out of 81 hits (35.8%). His high SLG isn&#039;t due to increased power. He&#039;s not hitting XBHs at a higher rate. It&#039;s because of a .447 BABiP that no one - especially not Pagan and his line drive rates - can sustain for very long. He&#039;s only walked twice so far this spring, which again tells me that we probably shouldn&#039;t expect anything new from the guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s interesting, Tim. But what were the differentials between their slugging and batting averages? How many XBHs are we talking here?</p>
<p>Because Pagan has had 5 out of his 18 spring training hits (27.7%) go for extra bases. For his MLB career, it&#8217;s 29 XBH out of 81 hits (35.8%). His high SLG isn&#8217;t due to increased power. He&#8217;s not hitting XBHs at a higher rate. It&#8217;s because of a .447 BABiP that no one &#8211; especially not Pagan and his line drive rates &#8211; can sustain for very long. He&#8217;s only walked twice so far this spring, which again tells me that we probably shouldn&#8217;t expect anything new from the guy.
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		<title>By: Tim Dierkes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Dierkes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check this out, on a related note to spring performance:



http://www.rotoauthority.com/2008/03/when-spring-t-1.html</description>
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