Comments on: Which Braves belong in Hall? http://umpbump.com/press/2008/04/22/which-braves-belong-in-hall/ In-your-face baseball commentary Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:44:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Danny O http://umpbump.com/press/2008/04/22/which-braves-belong-in-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-55429 Danny O Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:47:26 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/which-braves-belong-in-hall/#comment-55429 Thank you Coley. I didn't want to say it, b/c I'm such a homer for the Braves, but Chipper is one of the great hitters of our time. He doesn't slump often or for very long (except 2004), has a good eye, and is great in the clutch. Thank you Coley. I didn’t want to say it, b/c I’m such a homer for the Braves, but Chipper is one of the great hitters of our time. He doesn’t slump often or for very long (except 2004), has a good eye, and is great in the clutch.

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]]> By: Coley Ward http://umpbump.com/press/2008/04/22/which-braves-belong-in-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-55427 Coley Ward Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:54:45 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/which-braves-belong-in-hall/#comment-55427 I think Schmidt was a better defensive 3B, but I think Chipper is one of the best hitters I've ever seen -- at any position. Numbers aside, Chipper is a phenomenon. Sure, he's hurt a lot, but I'm constantly amazed at how, when he comes back from an injury, he doesn't waste any time picking up where he left off, hitting the ball all over the place. Maybe this is totally at odds with most of what we write here, but I think Chipper wins on style points. I've never seen anybody who looked better hitting a baseball. It's the best looking swing of my generation. I think Schmidt was a better defensive 3B, but I think Chipper is one of the best hitters I’ve ever seen — at any position. Numbers aside, Chipper is a phenomenon. Sure, he’s hurt a lot, but I’m constantly amazed at how, when he comes back from an injury, he doesn’t waste any time picking up where he left off, hitting the ball all over the place. Maybe this is totally at odds with most of what we write here, but I think Chipper wins on style points. I’ve never seen anybody who looked better hitting a baseball. It’s the best looking swing of my generation.

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]]> By: melissa http://umpbump.com/press/2008/04/22/which-braves-belong-in-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-55428 melissa Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:13:56 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/which-braves-belong-in-hall/#comment-55428 Don't expect people to elevate Chipper to being better than Schmidt. They will focus on the home runs and the fact that Schmidt hit more when it was harder to do so. Personally I feel Chipper is the better all around baseball player and is an unquestioned hall of famer. Don't be surprised when people argue against him that they say, if Atlanta had 4 hall of famers they should have won more World Series titles. Ron Santo has suffered from the fact that he played with 3 hall of famers and their teams never won anything. They say if Santo is a hall of famer along with Banks, Williams and Jenkins then his teams would have won more. It also seems that 3rd base may be the hardest position to get recognition for being a great player. Don’t expect people to elevate Chipper to being better than Schmidt. They will focus on the home runs and the fact that Schmidt hit more when it was harder to do so. Personally I feel Chipper is the better all around baseball player and is an unquestioned hall of famer.

Don’t be surprised when people argue against him that they say, if Atlanta had 4 hall of famers they should have won more World Series titles. Ron Santo has suffered from the fact that he played with 3 hall of famers and their teams never won anything. They say if Santo is a hall of famer along with Banks, Williams and Jenkins then his teams would have won more. It also seems that 3rd base may be the hardest position to get recognition for being a great player.

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]]> By: Nick Kapur http://umpbump.com/press/2008/04/22/which-braves-belong-in-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-55426 Nick Kapur Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:44:43 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/which-braves-belong-in-hall/#comment-55426 Paul, I think when all is said and done, we may consider Chipper the greatest third basemen of all time (at least until he is later surpassed by A-Rod). The Hall of Fame is surprisingly thin on great third basemen, and in my mind it is already starting to get to a point where it comes down to a battle between Chipper and Schmidt. It really all depends on how much longer Chipper can play at this level, but he doesn't seem to be slowing down just yet, does he? Paul, I think when all is said and done, we may consider Chipper the greatest third basemen of all time (at least until he is later surpassed by A-Rod).

The Hall of Fame is surprisingly thin on great third basemen, and in my mind it is already starting to get to a point where it comes down to a battle between Chipper and Schmidt. It really all depends on how much longer Chipper can play at this level, but he doesn’t seem to be slowing down just yet, does he?

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]]> By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2008/04/22/which-braves-belong-in-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-55425 Paul Moro Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:19:33 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/which-braves-belong-in-hall/#comment-55425 I actually voted yes on five of those eight (not Jones, Hudson or Tex). And this is coming from a Mets fan. Look, the three pitchers are in. No ifs, ands or buts. Bobby Cox is in. Too many people respect Schuerholz to think he's not getting in. If Chipper doesn't get in, then that just means people still spend far too much time counting hits. I can only think of a few thirdbasemen better than Chipper - Schmidt, Killebrew, Brett, Matthews. Maybe add Homerun Baker to that list. And yes, I think he's better than Boggs. So that's it. Chipper probably won't get to 3000 hits. But everything else is there and then some. I actually voted yes on five of those eight (not Jones, Hudson or Tex). And this is coming from a Mets fan.

Look, the three pitchers are in. No ifs, ands or buts.

Bobby Cox is in.

Too many people respect Schuerholz to think he’s not getting in.

If Chipper doesn’t get in, then that just means people still spend far too much time counting hits. I can only think of a few thirdbasemen better than Chipper – Schmidt, Killebrew, Brett, Matthews. Maybe add Homerun Baker to that list. And yes, I think he’s better than Boggs. So that’s it. Chipper probably won’t get to 3000 hits. But everything else is there and then some.

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]]> By: Danny O http://umpbump.com/press/2008/04/22/which-braves-belong-in-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-55424 Danny O Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:35:28 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/which-braves-belong-in-hall/#comment-55424 Thumbs down on the Neagle consideration. His career stats don't even come close to ballot-worthy. He just had a few good years in Pittsburgh and Atlanta. I think Chipper will be near-lock status with a few more years of his steady outstandingness. If he can add another MVP, there should be no question. Thumbs down on the Neagle consideration. His career stats don’t even come close to ballot-worthy. He just had a few good years in Pittsburgh and Atlanta.

I think Chipper will be near-lock status with a few more years of his steady outstandingness. If he can add another MVP, there should be no question.

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]]> By: Morisseau http://umpbump.com/press/2008/04/22/which-braves-belong-in-hall/comment-page-1/#comment-55423 Morisseau Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:25:33 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/which-braves-belong-in-hall/#comment-55423 I think Schuerholz is more deserving than Cox. Also: Denny Neagle. I think Schuerholz is more deserving than Cox.

Also: Denny Neagle.

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