Comments on: All in the family http://umpbump.com/press/2008/06/06/all-in-the-family/ In-your-face baseball commentary Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:48:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: White Sox Draft Kenny Williams’ Son (Stop Me If You’ve Heard It) | umpbump.com http://umpbump.com/press/2008/06/06/all-in-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-59477 White Sox Draft Kenny Williams’ Son (Stop Me If You’ve Heard It) | umpbump.com Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:29:31 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/all-in-the-family/#comment-59477 [...] a team drafts the General Manager’s son in the fifth round in a huge reach like the White Sox did for Kenny Williams, Jr. in last year’s amateur draft, [...] [...] a team drafts the General Manager’s son in the fifth round in a huge reach like the White Sox did for Kenny Williams, Jr. in last year’s amateur draft, [...]

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]]> By: MrLomez http://umpbump.com/press/2008/06/06/all-in-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-49431 MrLomez Mon, 05 May 2008 17:38:56 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/all-in-the-family/#comment-49431 Ahhh...A Dodgers fan. Say no more. Ahhh…A Dodgers fan. Say no more.

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]]> By: Nick Kapur http://umpbump.com/press/2008/06/06/all-in-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-49430 Nick Kapur Mon, 05 May 2008 17:12:20 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/all-in-the-family/#comment-49430 MrLomez, I'm glad that you normally like what I write, and since you wonder why I choose to pick on the Giants, I will give you the answer which is that I am a Dodgers fan and therefore I simply enjoy picking on the Giants. I don't think I really need to give you some sort of complex justification beyond that. I don't know yet whether the Giants are going to be a historically bad team, or just a regular bad team, but frankly I don't really care. I probably don't watch the Giants as much as you do, but I definitely do follow them, and I am astonished by the incompetence with which they are run. It is nigh unbelieveable that with all the so-called "free talent" out there - your Keppingers and such, that Brian Sabean could not find anyone in the minors or in the independent leagues or somewhere better than Bocock and Burriss to play shortstop. I realize that it is infuriating to see people pick on your beloved Giants, but you should really save your fury for Sabean and Co. for building such a sucky and mock-worthy team. <a href="http://www.dugoutcentral.com/blog/?p=1319#comment-54344" rel="nofollow">Which I believe you already kind of do.</a> Also, I not only watch the Giants but I also watch their stats enough to know that they are currently tied with the Padres for the worst run differential in baseball, so the argument Giants fans keep making that they are in 3rd place in a tough division or whatever just doesn't hold water for me. Statistically the Giants should be last in baseball with an 11-21 record right now, so the fact that they are "only" 14-18 is more luck than not. Lastly, I don't think you can say I am just making stuff up. Oh sure, we can certainly quibble over whether Matt Cain and his 4.08 ERA should also be considered a "rotational standout" along with Lincecum and his 1.49 ERA, or whether Alfonzo's .306 avg in AAA constitutes a "bright spot" or not, but those are just differences of opinion. I'm not making stuff up. The Giants do in fact suck, and suck pretty hard. MrLomez, I’m glad that you normally like what I write, and since you wonder why I choose to pick on the Giants, I will give you the answer which is that I am a Dodgers fan and therefore I simply enjoy picking on the Giants. I don’t think I really need to give you some sort of complex justification beyond that.

I don’t know yet whether the Giants are going to be a historically bad team, or just a regular bad team, but frankly I don’t really care. I probably don’t watch the Giants as much as you do, but I definitely do follow them, and I am astonished by the incompetence with which they are run. It is nigh unbelieveable that with all the so-called “free talent” out there – your Keppingers and such, that Brian Sabean could not find anyone in the minors or in the independent leagues or somewhere better than Bocock and Burriss to play shortstop.

I realize that it is infuriating to see people pick on your beloved Giants, but you should really save your fury for Sabean and Co. for building such a sucky and mock-worthy team. Which I believe you already kind of do.

Also, I not only watch the Giants but I also watch their stats enough to know that they are currently tied with the Padres for the worst run differential in baseball, so the argument Giants fans keep making that they are in 3rd place in a tough division or whatever just doesn’t hold water for me. Statistically the Giants should be last in baseball with an 11-21 record right now, so the fact that they are “only” 14-18 is more luck than not.

Lastly, I don’t think you can say I am just making stuff up. Oh sure, we can certainly quibble over whether Matt Cain and his 4.08 ERA should also be considered a “rotational standout” along with Lincecum and his 1.49 ERA, or whether Alfonzo’s .306 avg in AAA constitutes a “bright spot” or not, but those are just differences of opinion. I’m not making stuff up. The Giants do in fact suck, and suck pretty hard.

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]]> By: MrLomez http://umpbump.com/press/2008/06/06/all-in-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-49429 MrLomez Mon, 05 May 2008 16:49:41 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/all-in-the-family/#comment-49429 Yes the Giants are not good. My underlying grievance is that you, who I normally like by the way, and more hacky sportswriters than I can count, will not stop piling on even though the Giants are no worse than any basement dweller in any division this side of the AL East. I just don't get why the Giants have been picked out of the crowd to be the butt of everyone's tired jokes. Meanwhile, they are playing indifferently enough at the moment that they should be a complete non-story. With the exception of Zito there is nothing about this team (for good or bad) that is news worthy. So what happens, people like you go and just make shit up about them. That is extremely lame (and bad) writing. You say you watch Giants games, but there is NOTHING in this article that would suggest you do. The next time you do one of these articles please make 1 point that I couldn't read about on mlb.com. Yes the Giants are not good.

My underlying grievance is that you, who I normally like by the way, and more hacky sportswriters than I can count, will not stop piling on even though the Giants are no worse than any basement dweller in any division this side of the AL East. I just don’t get why the Giants have been picked out of the crowd to be the butt of everyone’s tired jokes.

Meanwhile, they are playing indifferently enough at the moment that they should be a complete non-story. With the exception of Zito there is nothing about this team (for good or bad) that is news worthy.

So what happens, people like you go and just make shit up about them. That is extremely lame (and bad) writing.

You say you watch Giants games, but there is NOTHING in this article that would suggest you do. The next time you do one of these articles please make 1 point that I couldn’t read about on mlb.com.

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]]> By: Nick Kapur http://umpbump.com/press/2008/06/06/all-in-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-49426 Nick Kapur Mon, 05 May 2008 15:31:56 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/all-in-the-family/#comment-49426 Hey, MrLomez, thanks for weighing in. I actually agree with you that Matt Cain and Jonathan Sanchez and Walker and Wilson have been good this year. And yes, Molina has been okay and Rowand has been good so far. That's why you will notice in one of the comments above that I only said that the Giants have 18 terrible players - that still leaves room for about 7 or 8 good players on their roster! Unfortunately I can't agree with you about Burriss and Velez though - they completely suck. But anyway, if you want to highlight the modest achievements of those 7 or 8 decent players within the overall context of the patent and undeniable suckiness of the Giants team as a whole, than I suggest you go on your own blog and write a post called "San Francisco AwesomeWatch 2008" where you can focus on the few guys who can actually play baseball on that team. But my post is called "SuckWatch", so naturally I am going to focus on the majority of the Giants who completely and utterly suck. Hey, MrLomez, thanks for weighing in.

I actually agree with you that Matt Cain and Jonathan Sanchez and Walker and Wilson have been good this year. And yes, Molina has been okay and Rowand has been good so far. That’s why you will notice in one of the comments above that I only said that the Giants have 18 terrible players – that still leaves room for about 7 or 8 good players on their roster!

Unfortunately I can’t agree with you about Burriss and Velez though – they completely suck.

But anyway, if you want to highlight the modest achievements of those 7 or 8 decent players within the overall context of the patent and undeniable suckiness of the Giants team as a whole, than I suggest you go on your own blog and write a post called “San Francisco AwesomeWatch 2008″ where you can focus on the few guys who can actually play baseball on that team.

But my post is called “SuckWatch”, so naturally I am going to focus on the majority of the Giants who completely and utterly suck.

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]]> By: MrLomez http://umpbump.com/press/2008/06/06/all-in-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-49396 MrLomez Sun, 04 May 2008 05:39:20 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/all-in-the-family/#comment-49396 You hack. Way to jump on the "Giants Suck" bandwagon with every other half-wit who can't find something original to say. "Lone rotational standout Tim Lincecum". Matt Cain? Jonathan Sanchez? Bueller? Oh, but that might dilute the effect your going for here. "One of the lone bright spots in the Giants organization this season - catcher Eliezer Alfonzo" LAME. Alfonzo is a 28 year-old catching prospect with bad knees. No one ever had anything more than the most modest expectations for this guy. But hey, making wild exaggerations to help make a retarded argument is cool. Look man, the Giants are bad, we know that, but it's infuriating to hear people make it sound like this time is some kind of historically tragic embarrassment. It's just not the case. The pitching is solid, despite the injuries. Rowand's been very good with a .330 avg and a .906 OPS. Molina's hit well. Velez and Burriss have shown flashes of being an at least a respectable middle-infield. And Tyler Walker and Brian Wilson (aside from the Burrell blast last night) have been a solid 1-2 punch in the back of the rotation. You hack. Way to jump on the “Giants Suck” bandwagon with every other half-wit who can’t find something original to say.

“Lone rotational standout Tim Lincecum”. Matt Cain? Jonathan Sanchez? Bueller? Oh, but that might dilute the effect your going for here.

“One of the lone bright spots in the Giants organization this season – catcher Eliezer Alfonzo”

LAME. Alfonzo is a 28 year-old catching prospect with bad knees. No one ever had anything more than the most modest expectations for this guy. But hey, making wild exaggerations to help make a retarded argument is cool.

Look man, the Giants are bad, we know that, but it’s infuriating to hear people make it sound like this time is some kind of historically tragic embarrassment. It’s just not the case. The pitching is solid, despite the injuries. Rowand’s been very good with a .330 avg and a .906 OPS. Molina’s hit well. Velez and Burriss have shown flashes of being an at least a respectable middle-infield. And Tyler Walker and Brian Wilson (aside from the Burrell blast last night) have been a solid 1-2 punch in the back of the rotation.

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]]> By: Sarah Green http://umpbump.com/press/2008/06/06/all-in-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-49332 Sarah Green Fri, 02 May 2008 12:05:45 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/all-in-the-family/#comment-49332 Yes, the Red Sox were in third place to the Orioles and the Rays a couple of days back. I really don't think that's indicative of how the season is going to go for the lowly O's, however. Especially considering their negative run differential. Yes, the Red Sox were in third place to the Orioles and the Rays a couple of days back. I really don’t think that’s indicative of how the season is going to go for the lowly O’s, however. Especially considering their negative run differential.

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]]> By: Nick Kapur http://umpbump.com/press/2008/06/06/all-in-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-49323 Nick Kapur Fri, 02 May 2008 03:14:15 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/all-in-the-family/#comment-49323 Duke, if you honestly think the Giants have been playing "not too shabby" this season, then you are the one who has not been watching the games. That team has a few good pitchers, Fred Lewis, and about 18 terrible players. Duke, if you honestly think the Giants have been playing “not too shabby” this season, then you are the one who has not been watching the games.

That team has a few good pitchers, Fred Lewis, and about 18 terrible players.

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]]> By: Duke http://umpbump.com/press/2008/06/06/all-in-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-49322 Duke Fri, 02 May 2008 02:51:41 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/all-in-the-family/#comment-49322 'Although they have somehow been able to compile a record of 13-16 so far, good for third place in the NL West' Uh, yeah, third place, not too shabby, do you even watch the games? Is this Ray Ratto or Ralph Barbeiri? ‘Although they have somehow been able to compile a record of 13-16 so far, good for third place in the NL West’ Uh, yeah, third place, not too shabby, do you even watch the games? Is this Ray Ratto or Ralph Barbeiri?

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