Comments on: What They Need: Boston Red Sox – To Get Younger http://umpbump.com/press/2008/11/12/what-they-need-boston-red-sox-to-get-younger/ In-your-face baseball commentary Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:44:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: KenJr http://umpbump.com/press/2008/11/12/what-they-need-boston-red-sox-to-get-younger/comment-page-1/#comment-57484 KenJr Fri, 21 Nov 2008 10:39:15 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=3582#comment-57484 1. Re-sign Tek @ 2 years no more than 20 million total(hopefully half that). 2. Sign RHP, Junichi Tazawa from Japan. 3. Trade M. Bowden to Texas for C, J. Saltalamacchia. 4. Keep J. Lugo as our utility infielder. 5. Let C. Carter be our backup 1B/OF 6. Sign R. Baldelli as our 4th OF'er Line-up: 1. Ellsbury, LHH, CF 2. Pedroia, RHH, 2B 3. Ortiz, LHH, DH 4. Youkilis, RHH, 1B 5. Drew, LHH, RF 6. Bay, RHH, LF 7. Lowell, RHH, 3B 8. Lowrie, SH, SS 9. Varitek, SH, C Bench: Saltalamacchia, SH, C/1B Baldelli, RHH, CF, LF, RF Lugo, RHH, SS, 2B, 3B Carter, LHH, 1B, LF Cash, RHH, C The fact that Saltalamacchia can play 1B allows us to keep Cash on the roster for Wakefield. SP: Beckett, RHP Lester, LHP Matsuzaka, RHP Wakefield, RHP Tazawa/Masterson/Buchholz, All RHP's Bullpen: Papelbon, RHP, CL Okajima, LHP Delcarmen, RHP Ramirez, RHP Lopez, RHP Masterson/Bard, Both RHP's If Masterson is given the 5th starters spot, then Bard could be the 6th member of the BP. If either Buchholz or Tazawa take the spot, Masterson goes to the pen. I want no part of Teixiera. I believe during these bad economic times, those teams that build from within will have the most success. I plan on watching Lars Anderson become an All-Star within the next four years. 1. Re-sign Tek @ 2 years no more than 20 million total(hopefully half that).
2. Sign RHP, Junichi Tazawa from Japan.
3. Trade M. Bowden to Texas for C, J. Saltalamacchia.
4. Keep J. Lugo as our utility infielder.
5. Let C. Carter be our backup 1B/OF
6. Sign R. Baldelli as our 4th OF’er

Line-up:

1. Ellsbury, LHH, CF
2. Pedroia, RHH, 2B
3. Ortiz, LHH, DH
4. Youkilis, RHH, 1B
5. Drew, LHH, RF
6. Bay, RHH, LF
7. Lowell, RHH, 3B
8. Lowrie, SH, SS
9. Varitek, SH, C

Bench:

Saltalamacchia, SH, C/1B
Baldelli, RHH, CF, LF, RF
Lugo, RHH, SS, 2B, 3B
Carter, LHH, 1B, LF
Cash, RHH, C

The fact that Saltalamacchia can play 1B allows us to keep Cash on the roster for Wakefield.

SP:

Beckett, RHP
Lester, LHP
Matsuzaka, RHP
Wakefield, RHP
Tazawa/Masterson/Buchholz, All RHP’s

Bullpen:

Papelbon, RHP, CL
Okajima, LHP
Delcarmen, RHP
Ramirez, RHP
Lopez, RHP
Masterson/Bard, Both RHP’s

If Masterson is given the 5th starters spot, then Bard could be the 6th member of the BP. If either Buchholz or Tazawa take the spot, Masterson goes to the pen.

I want no part of Teixiera. I believe during these bad economic times, those teams that build from within will have the most success. I plan on watching Lars Anderson become an All-Star within the next four years.

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]]> By: TYRONE http://umpbump.com/press/2008/11/12/what-they-need-boston-red-sox-to-get-younger/comment-page-1/#comment-57418 TYRONE Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:54:19 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=3582#comment-57418 I think that they should keep Masterson in the bullpen because he's basically an automatic double play, which can rly crush a rally late in the game. Too many ppl are giving up on Buchholz because of his bad year,I expect him to win the #5 job out of spring training.Just from a scouting standpoint, he has all the tools to be a #1 pitcher. The only way I would put Masterson in the rotation is if someone can take his place in the bullpen as an effective rh setup guy(cough..manny delcarmen..cough) and if Buchholz or the other veteran #5 guy the red sox are likely to sign absolutely fails. part of Masterson's value is as a swingman. Trade any prospect not named clay buchholz or masterson to the rangers for Salty and resign Varitek for 2 years. No other team wants Varitek so Boras doesnt have any leverage. The angels will probably outbid anyone for Tex, they really want him back.So we have to hope that lowell can stay healthy and him, youk,papi and bay can hopefully give the lineup plenty of pop. I've heard mixed feelings about the lugo for d-train trade rumor. I would take willis in a heartbeat, see what John Farrell can do to fix him. I think that they should keep Masterson in the bullpen because he’s basically an automatic double play, which can rly crush a rally late in the game. Too many ppl are giving up on Buchholz because of his bad year,I expect him to win the #5 job out of spring training.Just from a scouting standpoint, he has all the tools to be a #1 pitcher.
The only way I would put Masterson in the rotation is if someone can take his place in the bullpen as an effective rh setup guy(cough..manny delcarmen..cough) and if Buchholz or the other veteran #5 guy the red sox are likely to sign absolutely fails. part of Masterson’s value is as a swingman.
Trade any prospect not named clay buchholz or masterson to the rangers for Salty and resign Varitek for 2 years. No other team wants Varitek so Boras doesnt have any leverage.
The angels will probably outbid anyone for Tex, they really want him back.So we have to hope that lowell can stay healthy and him, youk,papi and bay can hopefully give the lineup plenty of pop.
I’ve heard mixed feelings about the lugo for d-train trade rumor. I would take willis in a heartbeat, see what John Farrell can do to fix him.

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]]> By: Sarah Green http://umpbump.com/press/2008/11/12/what-they-need-boston-red-sox-to-get-younger/comment-page-1/#comment-57416 Sarah Green Sat, 15 Nov 2008 02:34:40 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=3582#comment-57416 Whoah, a lot of comments all of a sudden. Soxfan, I see you made a typo. Obv. you meant to say, "you clearly have *an* idea what you're talking about," not "on idea." Thanks -- I do have an idea what I'm talking about. Andy, yes, that's why they put Masterson in the pen. In other (wittier) words, as I wrote in the post, Mike Timlin just got really old. Thank you for reading so closely before commenting. With Beckett having an off year -- and hurting towards the end -- and Wakefield ineffective in October for the past few Octobers, I still would have preferred to see Masterson in the starting ro. I understand why they did it, but why on earth keep him there now? Yes, Tex. The moolah. Yes. ELR -- Fielder is interesting. Acquiring Fielder would, I feel like, signal that they were ready to give up on Papi (which, sadly, it might be time to do). Plus, I don't think they could get Fielder and a good young catcher -- they just don't want to give up that many prospects. I would rather see them spend money on Tex and prospects on catching, than trade for Fielder and, say, Gerald Laird. And M, am I having weird reverse amnesia in remembering that last time the Red Sox signed Tek as a free agent, he told Boras to back off, when Boras wanted to leverage the 4 years, 40 million offer to get another team to offer more? I remember it so clearly. But did it happen? Also, great job in the James Bond movies. You rock. Whoah, a lot of comments all of a sudden. Soxfan, I see you made a typo. Obv. you meant to say, “you clearly have *an* idea what you’re talking about,” not “on idea.” Thanks — I do have an idea what I’m talking about.

Andy, yes, that’s why they put Masterson in the pen. In other (wittier) words, as I wrote in the post, Mike Timlin just got really old. Thank you for reading so closely before commenting. With Beckett having an off year — and hurting towards the end — and Wakefield ineffective in October for the past few Octobers, I still would have preferred to see Masterson in the starting ro. I understand why they did it, but why on earth keep him there now?

Yes, Tex. The moolah. Yes.

ELR — Fielder is interesting. Acquiring Fielder would, I feel like, signal that they were ready to give up on Papi (which, sadly, it might be time to do). Plus, I don’t think they could get Fielder and a good young catcher — they just don’t want to give up that many prospects. I would rather see them spend money on Tex and prospects on catching, than trade for Fielder and, say, Gerald Laird.

And M, am I having weird reverse amnesia in remembering that last time the Red Sox signed Tek as a free agent, he told Boras to back off, when Boras wanted to leverage the 4 years, 40 million offer to get another team to offer more? I remember it so clearly. But did it happen? Also, great job in the James Bond movies. You rock.

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]]> By: M@ http://umpbump.com/press/2008/11/12/what-they-need-boston-red-sox-to-get-younger/comment-page-1/#comment-57397 M@ Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:18:50 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=3582#comment-57397 I think you're spot on with these pics. I'd love to see them pick up Tex, dump Lugo, trade Lowell, move Youk to 3rd, and pick up Teagarden or Salty. All that's possible with Coco and Buchholz thrown in to season the pot. There's never been a better time to trade Coco, and Buchholz isn't fitting the bill. Pick up some relievers and you're right, plug in Masterson as a starter. Hopefully Oki won't take most of the season to find his groove. I'd love Tek to stick around, but with Boras as an agent, I'm not seeing it. I also doubt we'll get Tex, but never know. Just get rid of Lugo and I'll be happy. I think you’re spot on with these pics. I’d love to see them pick up Tex, dump Lugo, trade Lowell, move Youk to 3rd, and pick up Teagarden or Salty.

All that’s possible with Coco and Buchholz thrown in to season the pot. There’s never been a better time to trade Coco, and Buchholz isn’t fitting the bill.

Pick up some relievers and you’re right, plug in Masterson as a starter. Hopefully Oki won’t take most of the season to find his groove.

I’d love Tek to stick around, but with Boras as an agent, I’m not seeing it. I also doubt we’ll get Tex, but never know.

Just get rid of Lugo and I’ll be happy.

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]]> By: elr http://umpbump.com/press/2008/11/12/what-they-need-boston-red-sox-to-get-younger/comment-page-1/#comment-57389 elr Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:22:48 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=3582#comment-57389 pick up fielder he reminds me of Mo Vaughn wouldn't it be GREAT to have him back in BOSTON Ortiz,youkillis,Fielder batting 3,4,5 scary pick up fielder
he reminds me of Mo Vaughn wouldn’t it be GREAT to have him back in BOSTON
Ortiz,youkillis,Fielder batting 3,4,5
scary

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]]> By: Seronick http://umpbump.com/press/2008/11/12/what-they-need-boston-red-sox-to-get-younger/comment-page-1/#comment-57384 Seronick Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:47:32 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=3582#comment-57384 Tex! Tex! Tex! its not hard, just sign him!!!!!!!!! u got the money, get him to boston NOW Tex! Tex! Tex! its not hard, just sign him!!!!!!!!! u got the money, get him to boston NOW

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]]> By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2008/11/12/what-they-need-boston-red-sox-to-get-younger/comment-page-1/#comment-57382 Paul Moro Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:41:12 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=3582#comment-57382 Andy, I don't know why you think that #5 pitchers are easy to find. Crappy fives, yes, those are plentiful. Useful ones that can be had mid-season for next to nothing? It's much easier to find a decent set up man especially in an organization that has so many cheap young pitching options like the Sox. Andy, I don’t know why you think that #5 pitchers are easy to find. Crappy fives, yes, those are plentiful. Useful ones that can be had mid-season for next to nothing? It’s much easier to find a decent set up man especially in an organization that has so many cheap young pitching options like the Sox.

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]]> By: Andy http://umpbump.com/press/2008/11/12/what-they-need-boston-red-sox-to-get-younger/comment-page-1/#comment-57381 Andy Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:06:46 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=3582#comment-57381 Sarah - the satisfactory explanation that you're looking for as to why they put Masterson in the bullpen was that they had no 8th inning guy b/c Okajima was not what we was in 2007 until late in the season. I'm not sure how that wasn't obvious. You can't just go pick up anyone to be your bridge to Papelbon while conversely, you can go out and get a no. 5 starter (Byrd) at any time.. Sarah – the satisfactory explanation that you’re looking for as to why they put Masterson in the bullpen was that they had no 8th inning guy b/c Okajima was not what we was in 2007 until late in the season. I’m not sure how that wasn’t obvious. You can’t just go pick up anyone to be your bridge to Papelbon while conversely, you can go out and get a no. 5 starter (Byrd) at any time..

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]]> By: soxfan http://umpbump.com/press/2008/11/12/what-they-need-boston-red-sox-to-get-younger/comment-page-1/#comment-57380 soxfan Fri, 14 Nov 2008 19:04:45 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=3582#comment-57380 you clearly have on idea what you're talking about. you clearly have on idea what you’re talking about.

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