Comments on: UmpBump’s 2008 Hall of Fame Picks

By: Annual UmpBump Hall of Fame Balloting: 2010 Edition | umpbump.com

Annual UmpBump Hall of Fame Balloting: 2010 Edition | umpbump.com — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:30:32 +0000

[...] In 2008, we inducted Goose Gossage into the UmpBump version of the Hall of Fame, and last year, we inducted Rickey Henderson and Tim Raines. Although Raines is not yet in the real Hall, since he’s already in our Hall we didn’t include him in the voting this year, although judging from the number of UmpBump voters who put him on their ballot anyway as a sign of solidarity, we gladly would have voted him in again this year. [...]

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By: Dan Rosenheck

Dan Rosenheck — Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:48:48 +0000

kensai, I voted for all of those guys.

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By: melissa

melissa — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:38:14 +0000

As I said before Santo deserves induction regardless of diabetes. The reason I mention it is that it’s a disease that he inherited before he became a baseball player and it is in fact a disability to overcome. The advanced blood sugar testing that exists today was not available when he played. It is a difficult disease to manage now let alone in the 60s. I would add that character and what an individual has overcome is in fact related to the criteria for induction. It should be taken into consideration but it should not be something that would put a player without the skill to be considered like Baldelli for example. I also think injuries acquired from playing aren’t comparable to a disease. Knees not withstanding Dawson deserves to be in as well. People forget that he put up great offensive numbers while he played center for 7 or 8 years. 5 tool player.

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By: Paul Moro

Paul Moro — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:45:12 +0000

Nick, ditto.

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By: Nick Kapur

Nick Kapur — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:38:58 +0000

For me it’s a moot point, because Ron Santo *already* deserves to be in the Hall of Fame because of the numbers he put up, diabetes or no.

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By: kensai

kensai — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 12:35:24 +0000

melissa-I didn’t even factor in him having diabetes. I guess it could be a factor in the voting.

Regardless, he deserved it anyway.

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By: Sarah Green

Sarah Green — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:39:01 +0000

Rocco Baldelli’s mitochondria would like consideration, please!!!!!

And Rock Raines would like to nominate his coke habit, also.

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By: Coley Ward

Coley Ward — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 03:16:26 +0000

I don’t want to dispute Santo’s credentials. But I do want to ask a question. Can we give extra credit for playing with diabetes? It seems to me that that’s a slippery slope. Does that mean we give Andre Dawson extra credit for playing with chronic knee pain? Do we give Albert Belle extra credit for the degenerative hip condition that ended his career?

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By: melissa

melissa — Wed, 10 Dec 2008 01:26:32 +0000

So, not only 3 umpbump voters but the veterans’ committee has once again snubbed Ron Santo. Santo’s son made a documentary about Ronnie’s life called, “This Old Cub,” and I would recommend it to anyone that thinks this man doesn’t deserve to be in the H.O.F. I think he deserves to be in based on his performance alone but to add in the fact that the guy played every day while managing diabetes is truly incredible. To this day, I do not believe there has been an every day position player to play the game while suffering diabetes.

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By: Paul Moro

Paul Moro — Tue, 09 Dec 2008 15:27:51 +0000

Kensai, I was just looking at the actual ballot when I voted so Rose wasn’t eligible. Had I expanded the list like I did last year, there’s be another vote for ol’ Pete.

And crap, I just realized that I forgot to put in a vote for Trammell.

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