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33 Responses to “Open Thread: The Sabathia Deal”

  1. Sarah Green says:

    There’s another perspective here, too, which is that CC is the kind of teammate that makes “intangibles” tangible. He’ll pitch his arm off for New York if they ask him too. Hell, he’ll do it even if they *don’t* ask him too. He’ll demand the ball even if Girardi doesn’t want to give it to him. He’ll out-Jeter Derek Jeter. He’ll shame A-Rod into manning up. You don’t get that kind of boost to the clubhouse from signing Burnett or Lowe or Sheets. Plus, Sabathia easily puts up better numbers than any of them.

  2. Coley Ward says:

    Sabathia probably puts up better numbers than all of them. Unless it turns out that a 300 pound pitcher who throws frequently on three days rest can’t keep it up forever and succumbs to injury or mediocrity. But what are the odds of that?

  3. Sarah Green says:

    Oddly enough, I predicted a three-year opt-out clause in my spoof post on the CC rumor mill:

    http://umpbump.com/press/2008/12/08/cc-sabathia-rumors-monday/

    I think I was kidding, though. I think I remember thinking, “What desperate move could the Giants pull to try and compete with New York’s money? I know, one of those gimmicky opt-out clauses! Har har har!”

  4. Sarah Green says:

    According to Buster Olney:

    In the meeting that Sabathia had with the Yankees, a question was asked in the room about whether there was an irreparable split between the two most dominant personalities in the room, A-Rod and Derek Jeter, and Yankees general manager Brian Cashman responded by talking about how the two men are just different.

  5. Pat (Brookfield CT) says:

    If the Yankees don’t sign Teixeira they are just treading water with the Sabathia signing. There offense which was mediocre at best last year will be even worse in 2009 with the loss of Giambi and Abreu.

  6. Coley Ward says:

    But Pat, a healthy Posada and a luckier Nick Swisher could mean a better Yankees offense.

  7. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/cc-sabathia-signs-with-yankees

    http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2008/12/10/688340/sabathia-to-new-york-for-1

    I voted yes.

    The only potential pitfall I see is injury risk. But I read pieces on his mechanics and his weight and came away unswayed that he’s any more prone than the next guy. Granted, injury can happen to anybody at anytime, so 7 years is always a huge risk.

  8. Sarah Green says:

    I don’t think the Yankees should sign Tex. He wants too many years — and now New York is already on the hook for 7 years of Sabathia, assuming he doesn’t opt-out.

    The Yanks’ primary concern this year was starting pitching. Now they have a front two of Sabathia and Wang — that’s pretty hot.

    With that pitching, and if they can acquire some shorter-term offensive help (Manny Ramirez?) they can make a decent run in the next three years. And in the meantime, they can work on adding more young hitting talent to their farm system, which has been a little heavy on pitching of late.

  9. Sarah Green says:

    Kensai, I couldn’t have said it better myself. Any of us could be hit by a bus tomorrow. Also, he’s 6’7″, so he wears it pretty well.

  10. Sarah Green says:

    Well, via MLBTR, I see that Jon Heyman says the Yankees are back in the hunt for Tex.

  11. If the Yankees sign CC, Burnett and Tex…well…jeez.

  12. Sarah Green says:

    I know. We’re back to the days of the Yankees trying to buy championships.

  13. Sarah Green says:

    More chatter: the Yankees remain interested in Derek Lowe (and will remain interested even if they sign Burnett), who apparently finds NY more appealing now that CC has signed there. There was also talk a while back that Peavy might find the Yankees more palatable if Sabathia joined them. If this is so, there’s clearly a huge ripple effect at work here that goes beyond the numbers Sabathia would put up during the season.

    It’s worth mentioning that the Yankees are really only feigning interest in Tex to drive up the price for perennial postseason rivals the Angels and the Red Sox, just the way the Red Sox feigned interest in Sabathia to try and drive up the price for New York.

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