Comments on: Yankees sign Burnett: What it means for the Braves http://umpbump.com/press/2008/12/13/yankees-sign-burnett-what-it-means-for-the-braves/ In-your-face baseball commentary Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:44:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Doug http://umpbump.com/press/2008/12/13/yankees-sign-burnett-what-it-means-for-the-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-57759 Doug Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:10:58 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=4118#comment-57759 AJ has great stuff, a borderline #1 SP. I go with #2. But no one can ignore his injury history! Debut Aug. 17, 1999, first full season was 2001 2003 made only 4 starts - Tommy John Surgery 2004 19 starts - returned in June, shut down in Sept for another elbow injury 2005 - walk year 12-12 3.44 ERA - Blue Jays still signed him for 5-year, $55M 2006 - Started season on DL a piece of scar tissue broke off in his pitching arm. Come off and made 1 start before going back on the DL for 2 months due to soreness in his right arm. 2007 - Heathy for April and May, but made 2 more trips to the DL from June through Sept 2008 - Walk year - right index finger injury, but still established career highs in almost every single pitching category. 2008 off-season - Yankees take the bait and hand out a 5-yr $82.5M deal. SUCKERS!!! How is AJ any different then Sheet? IMO he's NOT AJ has great stuff, a borderline #1 SP. I go with #2. But no one can ignore his injury history!
Debut Aug. 17, 1999, first full season was 2001
2003 made only 4 starts – Tommy John Surgery
2004 19 starts – returned in June, shut down in Sept for another elbow injury
2005 – walk year 12-12 3.44 ERA – Blue Jays still signed him for 5-year, $55M
2006 – Started season on DL a piece of scar tissue broke off in his pitching arm. Come off and made 1 start before going back on the DL for 2 months due to soreness in his right arm.
2007 – Heathy for April and May, but made 2 more trips to the DL from June through Sept
2008 – Walk year – right index finger injury, but still established career highs in almost every single pitching category.
2008 off-season – Yankees take the bait and hand out a 5-yr $82.5M deal.
SUCKERS!!!

How is AJ any different then Sheet? IMO he’s NOT

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]]> By: Sarah Green http://umpbump.com/press/2008/12/13/yankees-sign-burnett-what-it-means-for-the-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-57756 Sarah Green Tue, 16 Dec 2008 02:22:24 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=4118#comment-57756 Yes Melissa, I do think that's why the Yanks prioritized Lowe last. But Chien Ming Wang has done okay for them (injuries aside), even with the bad defense. I guess you could ask how many groundballers they want their crappy defense to have to worry about! I think Jeter would retire before he went to another team. Truly. His endorsement/book deal/broadcast career can't be far, now. Yes Melissa, I do think that’s why the Yanks prioritized Lowe last. But Chien Ming Wang has done okay for them (injuries aside), even with the bad defense. I guess you could ask how many groundballers they want their crappy defense to have to worry about!

I think Jeter would retire before he went to another team. Truly. His endorsement/book deal/broadcast career can’t be far, now.

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]]> By: melissa http://umpbump.com/press/2008/12/13/yankees-sign-burnett-what-it-means-for-the-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-57755 melissa Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:52:05 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=4118#comment-57755 Isn't a big reason the Yankees acquired Burnett is that he's a strikeout pitcher? Same with CC. The higher strike ratios help out a bad defense. This is a reason Derek Lowe should probably avoid the Bronx because he needs a defense behind him that's going to pick up the ball. Isn’t a big reason the Yankees acquired Burnett is that he’s a strikeout pitcher? Same with CC. The higher strike ratios help out a bad defense. This is a reason Derek Lowe should probably avoid the Bronx because he needs a defense behind him that’s going to pick up the ball.

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]]> By: coley http://umpbump.com/press/2008/12/13/yankees-sign-burnett-what-it-means-for-the-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-57753 coley Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:40:04 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=4118#comment-57753 Jeter really is turning into the elephant in the Yankees' room. Eventually, New York is going to have to acknowledge that his defense isn't up to snuff. And when they do, they'll have to move him to first base, where his lack of power will be much more noticeable. Of course, they could let him sign with another team in 2011. But that won't happen. Will it? Jeter really is turning into the elephant in the Yankees’ room. Eventually, New York is going to have to acknowledge that his defense isn’t up to snuff. And when they do, they’ll have to move him to first base, where his lack of power will be much more noticeable. Of course, they could let him sign with another team in 2011. But that won’t happen. Will it?

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]]> By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2008/12/13/yankees-sign-burnett-what-it-means-for-the-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-57751 Paul Moro Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:08:06 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=4118#comment-57751 The Yankees are working on it, it seems. If it's true that Mike Cameron is heading to the Bronx, then that's a defensive upgrade over Melky. I'm not sure how much credence we can give to the Cano-trade rumors, but it's not out the question. But they're stuck with Jeter at short. He's not going to move and management is too scared of what would happen if they even broached the subject. The Yankees are working on it, it seems. If it’s true that Mike Cameron is heading to the Bronx, then that’s a defensive upgrade over Melky. I’m not sure how much credence we can give to the Cano-trade rumors, but it’s not out the question. But they’re stuck with Jeter at short. He’s not going to move and management is too scared of what would happen if they even broached the subject.

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]]> By: Sarah Green http://umpbump.com/press/2008/12/13/yankees-sign-burnett-what-it-means-for-the-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-57749 Sarah Green Mon, 15 Dec 2008 17:02:19 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=4118#comment-57749 Ben L, you raise an excellent and pertinent point -- how much better would New York's pitching have looked last year with better defense? If the fielders get to more balls in play, the pitcher's stats benefit, too. If the defense behind them is bad, pitchers look bad. Ben L, you raise an excellent and pertinent point — how much better would New York’s pitching have looked last year with better defense? If the fielders get to more balls in play, the pitcher’s stats benefit, too. If the defense behind them is bad, pitchers look bad.

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]]> By: melissa http://umpbump.com/press/2008/12/13/yankees-sign-burnett-what-it-means-for-the-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-57748 melissa Sun, 14 Dec 2008 17:10:39 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=4118#comment-57748 Sheets missed crucial starts down the stretch for his team in 08 when they were fighting for the wild card. Luckily, Sabathia picked up the slack. In his walk year, Sheets had his most wins ever, 13, in 198 innings, his most since 2004. In 2005 he pitched 156 innings, 2006-106, 2007-141. So, if you want to say he hasn't been seriously injured, fine, but he has not been able to take the ball every 5th day and give his club consistent innings. I would imagine GMs see a pattern here. This guy has great stuff and is an ace pitcher when he can actually pitch unfortunately he hasn't been reliable. Based on talent, he would deserve a deal comparable to AJ Burnett but based on his consistency he will be lucky to get a 3 year offer. Milwaukee offered CC a $100MM contract now that he is gone why aren't they offering that deal to Sheets? If he goes back to Milwaukee it will likely be a 1 year deal. Sheets missed crucial starts down the stretch for his team in 08 when they were fighting for the wild card. Luckily, Sabathia picked up the slack. In his walk year, Sheets had his most wins ever, 13, in 198 innings, his most since 2004. In 2005 he pitched 156 innings, 2006-106, 2007-141. So, if you want to say he hasn’t been seriously injured, fine, but he has not been able to take the ball every 5th day and give his club consistent innings. I would imagine GMs see a pattern here. This guy has great stuff and is an ace pitcher when he can actually pitch unfortunately he hasn’t been reliable. Based on talent, he would deserve a deal comparable to AJ Burnett but based on his consistency he will be lucky to get a 3 year offer. Milwaukee offered CC a $100MM contract now that he is gone why aren’t they offering that deal to Sheets? If he goes back to Milwaukee it will likely be a 1 year deal.

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]]> By: Doug http://umpbump.com/press/2008/12/13/yankees-sign-burnett-what-it-means-for-the-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-57747 Doug Sun, 14 Dec 2008 16:26:11 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=4118#comment-57747 Sheets injuries really have not been that serious. 2008 - injury free - missed what 2 maybe 3 starts at the end of the season 2007 - strained hamstring - now this is his fault 2006 - shoulder tendinitis - could have been anyone 2005 - a series of inner ear infections -trip to the DL, Not his fault 2004 - injury free So over the last 5 season Sheets had hamstring problems in 2007 and shoulder tendinitis in 2006 Sheets injuries really have not been that serious.

2008 – injury free – missed what 2 maybe 3 starts at the end of the season
2007 – strained hamstring – now this is his fault
2006 – shoulder tendinitis – could have been anyone
2005 – a series of inner ear infections -trip to the DL, Not his fault

2004 – injury free
So over the last 5 season Sheets had hamstring problems in 2007 and shoulder tendinitis in 2006

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]]> By: Andy http://umpbump.com/press/2008/12/13/yankees-sign-burnett-what-it-means-for-the-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-57744 Andy Sun, 14 Dec 2008 05:45:11 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=4118#comment-57744 The Yankees have not really had good luck signing free agent pitchers. While Burnett may not be another Pavano, he still has a history of arm problems and his best years have been his walk years. I wish they still would give their youngsters more of a shot and show more confidence in them. The Yankees have not really had good luck signing free agent pitchers. While Burnett may not be another Pavano, he still has a history of arm problems and his best years have been his walk years. I wish they still would give their youngsters more of a shot and show more confidence in them.

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]]> By: Ben L http://umpbump.com/press/2008/12/13/yankees-sign-burnett-what-it-means-for-the-braves/comment-page-1/#comment-57742 Ben L Sun, 14 Dec 2008 04:28:26 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=4118#comment-57742 Seriously doubt Burnett will be as bad as Pavano but I do believe the yanks are severely overpaying for Burnett. I also think the yanks have absolutely failed to address one major flaw, defense up the middle. A buddy of mine pointed out to me once that teams that win the series usually have above average defense specifically up the middle (catcher, second, short, center). The yanks were (correct me if I'm wrong) were one of if not the worst defensive team in the majors. With Jeter and Cano up the middle, you're going to see a lot of free hits. Seriously doubt Burnett will be as bad as Pavano but I do believe the yanks are severely overpaying for Burnett. I also think the yanks have absolutely failed to address one major flaw, defense up the middle. A buddy of mine pointed out to me once that teams that win the series usually have above average defense specifically up the middle (catcher, second, short, center). The yanks were (correct me if I’m wrong) were one of if not the worst defensive team in the majors. With Jeter and Cano up the middle, you’re going to see a lot of free hits.

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