Who’s The Next To 300?
As of this writing, the man they call The Big Unit is five wins shy of joining the ranks of the game’s 300-game winners. You know what that means, right kids?
Articles about how he will be the last 300-game winner ever!!!
Long time readers (are there any of you out there?) may be getting a sense of deja vu, because you’ve read this before here on Umpbump. We thought it was ridiculous how some writers were making that same claim back in 2007 when Tom Glavine crossed the mark. And we were right. Because Randy Johnson is right at the door step.
Look, we get it. Unless Jamie Moyer decides to pitch until he’s 55 (may happen at this point), no one else is all that close. Pettite, Pedro and Smoltz are not going to get there and they’re the only active pitchers who have even made it to 200. And unless I’m missing someone, there are only two guys under 30 who have even hit triple digits (Sabathia and Garland). But chances are, someone’s going to do it again. And need we remind you that when he turned 30 back in September of 1993 (Jesus, the guy is old…), Randy Johnson only had 64 wins on his resume?
So we ask you, who will it be, Umpbumpers? Who’s going to be the next to 300 wins?
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April 8th, 2009 at 10:44 am
Kazmir
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April 8th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Halladay
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April 8th, 2009 at 12:05 pm
As uncovered a bit on the recent Curt Schilling thread, a player has to be on a good team to rack up wins. As long as Halladay is being robbed of wins by the flaccid Blue Jays offense, he will suffer. And Kazmir lost several good years of accrual before the Rays got to be any good – not to mention that he/his handlers are so careful with his pitch counts that he’ll have a hard time racking up enough innings to get that far. But he *is* starting young, I suppose.
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April 8th, 2009 at 12:10 pm
Well Halladay has done pretty well in the wins department over the last three years. Despite playing for the Jays, Doc has won 52 games between 2006-2008, which is the second most over that span (trailing Brandon Webb who won 56). Now if he can do that until he’s 41, then he’ll get there.
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April 8th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
I may be forever scarred by the complete game gem he twirled at Fenway last year, only to lose because his stupid team couldn’t score a single run. I bet sometimes Doc is tempted to play Kevorkian with his teammates.
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April 8th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
I think you guys actually forgot the most likely of all, Mark buehrle. He is 29 years old, has 122 wins, has thrown over 200 innings 8 years in a row, and is not a power pitcher. Sabathia has a chance, but I think his size and style make it less likely. Buehrle could easily turn into a Moyer type and pitch for a long time.
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April 8th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Good call, Troy.
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April 8th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Troy, I actually didn’t forget about Buehrle. I had considered putting him in there. I just didn’t. It was either him or Garland who was going to get the mention and I was more curious to see if anyone would actually vote Garland. But Buehrle was not forgotten, and shall be logged as a vote.
And for the record, Buehrle is now 30.
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April 8th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
Felix Hernandez. 22 YO, 40 wins.
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April 8th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
Carl Pavano.
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April 8th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Roy Halladay will reel off 7 seasons averaging about 20 wins, then average 15 for a few more seasons until he’s 44 and reach 300.
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April 9th, 2009 at 8:37 am
hahaha, Rylan your comment is more of an argument for why Halladay won’t make it. Nobody “averages” 20 wins anymore. Hardly anyone even gets to 20 wins nowadays, in this era of the pitch count.
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April 11th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
felix hernandez. or buehrle
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April 11th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
I’m gonna throw in Beckett – why is he not included here? he’s done 20 wins before.
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April 12th, 2009 at 7:07 am
I went with Johan Santana because his main weapon is a devastating changeup and that is a pitch which ages well.
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April 21st, 2009 at 2:52 pm
I don’t think it’s unreasonable to think that Halladay will average about 16 wins a season for the next 10 years. He’s not a power pitcher either and has a great work ethic. Saying that the Jays offense will hold him back is just plain wrong, as the stats will show you, they’ve really only been a bad hitting team since last season and now they’re turning it around.
If I had to bet on whether or not Roy would get there, I’d put a good amount on him getting to 300.
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April 21st, 2009 at 3:23 pm
Except for the fact that over the past ten years, no one has won 160 games. Zero. So it might be unreasonable to think that.
And for the record, in 2007, the Jays scored 4.6 runs per game, which was 12th in the AL. In 2006, they scored 5, which was right at the league average. 2005, right at league average, 2005, 4.5 runs, 12th in the AL. And Rogers Centre is a neutral park, meaning that since 2004, the Jays have been below average offensively.
Not saying that Halladay can’t possibly do it. But if you are really going to put a bet down on whether or not Doc will get to 300, make sure you get at least 10-1 odds.
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