Comments on: Stop the Mancrush on Daniel Murphy http://umpbump.com/press/2009/09/10/stop-the-mancrush-on-daniel-murphy/ In-your-face baseball commentary Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:48:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: OH MURPH http://umpbump.com/press/2009/09/10/stop-the-mancrush-on-daniel-murphy/comment-page-1/#comment-61616 OH MURPH Fri, 11 Sep 2009 23:01:56 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=6842#comment-61616 comn.. you gotta admit the sniffing the cleats is funny comn.. you gotta admit the sniffing the cleats is funny

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]]> By: Coley Ward http://umpbump.com/press/2009/09/10/stop-the-mancrush-on-daniel-murphy/comment-page-1/#comment-61612 Coley Ward Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:43:54 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=6842#comment-61612 I am a little worried about the Marlins catching the Phillies before the year is out. I realize it's a mostly irrational fear, since a five game lead is pretty solid with only three weeks to go. But last night's Phillies game was such a back breaker. The Phils were down 8-2 entering the ninth inning, but roared back to score four runs on a Matt Stairs grand slam (Stairs hadn't had a hit since June), and they drew w/in one when The Flying Hawaiin doubled in J-Ro. It was amazing. But just as extra innings seemed like a real possibility — a runner on third with one out and Ryan Howard at the plate — Howard bounced into a game ending double play. Oy, that hurt. I am a little worried about the Marlins catching the Phillies before the year is out. I realize it’s a mostly irrational fear, since a five game lead is pretty solid with only three weeks to go. But last night’s Phillies game was such a back breaker. The Phils were down 8-2 entering the ninth inning, but roared back to score four runs on a Matt Stairs grand slam (Stairs hadn’t had a hit since June), and they drew w/in one when The Flying Hawaiin doubled in J-Ro. It was amazing. But just as extra innings seemed like a real possibility — a runner on third with one out and Ryan Howard at the plate — Howard bounced into a game ending double play. Oy, that hurt.

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]]> By: Coley Ward http://umpbump.com/press/2009/09/10/stop-the-mancrush-on-daniel-murphy/comment-page-1/#comment-61611 Coley Ward Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:38:13 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=6842#comment-61611 Nick, I'm not worried about the Mets. But I can still bask in their crapitude. Nick, I’m not worried about the Mets. But I can still bask in their crapitude.

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]]> By: Nick Kapur http://umpbump.com/press/2009/09/10/stop-the-mancrush-on-daniel-murphy/comment-page-1/#comment-61610 Nick Kapur Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:52:52 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=6842#comment-61610 Coley, as a Phillies fan, I think it's probably time to start worrying more about the Marlins and the Braves for 2010 than the Mets. Coley, as a Phillies fan, I think it’s probably time to start worrying more about the Marlins and the Braves for 2010 than the Mets.

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]]> By: Coley Ward http://umpbump.com/press/2009/09/10/stop-the-mancrush-on-daniel-murphy/comment-page-1/#comment-61608 Coley Ward Fri, 11 Sep 2009 05:11:34 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=6842#comment-61608 As a Phillies fan, the only thing I'd rather see than Murphy at first base is Murphy at second base. As a Phillies fan, the only thing I’d rather see than Murphy at first base is Murphy at second base.

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]]> By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2009/09/10/stop-the-mancrush-on-daniel-murphy/comment-page-1/#comment-61607 Paul Moro Fri, 11 Sep 2009 03:30:41 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=6842#comment-61607 Facebook User (whomever you may be), Murphy can't play second base. They toyed with the idea during winter ball last year but he got hurt and the entire idea was scrapped. But if he couldn't hack it as a third baseman or left fielder, I see no reason to think that he could play second, which is a more demanding position. Facebook User (whomever you may be), Murphy can’t play second base. They toyed with the idea during winter ball last year but he got hurt and the entire idea was scrapped. But if he couldn’t hack it as a third baseman or left fielder, I see no reason to think that he could play second, which is a more demanding position.

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]]> By: Facebook User http://umpbump.com/press/2009/09/10/stop-the-mancrush-on-daniel-murphy/comment-page-1/#comment-61606 Facebook User Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:00:44 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=6842#comment-61606 Bear in mind that Murphy can supposedly play second base. Cerrone suggests the Mets may try to find a taker for Luis Castillo in favor of Orlando Hudson, but it might make more sense to replace him with Murphy and devote that money to seeking more power at first. Bear in mind that Murphy can supposedly play second base. Cerrone suggests the Mets may try to find a taker for Luis Castillo in favor of Orlando Hudson, but it might make more sense to replace him with Murphy and devote that money to seeking more power at first.

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]]> By: Coley Ward http://umpbump.com/press/2009/09/10/stop-the-mancrush-on-daniel-murphy/comment-page-1/#comment-61593 Coley Ward Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:11:36 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=6842#comment-61593 Ceetar is right about one thing — there aren't any decent 1B options available on the free agent market. Unless you consider Adam LaRoche decent. And I don't. Maybe the Mets should sign Eric Hinske. His teams always make the playoffs (or they have since 2007). Ceetar is right about one thing — there aren’t any decent 1B options available on the free agent market. Unless you consider Adam LaRoche decent. And I don’t.

Maybe the Mets should sign Eric Hinske. His teams always make the playoffs (or they have since 2007).

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]]> By: Paul Moro http://umpbump.com/press/2009/09/10/stop-the-mancrush-on-daniel-murphy/comment-page-1/#comment-61592 Paul Moro Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:16:19 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=6842#comment-61592 Not quite sure how you can construe this as a case of racism. I don't think it's any secret that we as human beings like to cheer for guys we can relate to. Murphy is a white dude with a medium build, which seems to describe a good chunk of the baseball watching public. I'm Japanese, and therefore probably think too highly of Japanese players. It's the way many of us are. I mean, we're not color-blind, you know. And I hate the argument "it's not a fantasy situation". It means nothing. What is important is that you put nine guys on the field who can win roughly 60% of the games. And if you can't do that, then you have a problem. Murphy at first makes this difficult. You also overrate what Jason Bay can do. Sure, he's a superior hitter. But I wouldn't want him anywhere near LF in Citi Field. The man can't field his position for his life. He'll give up a lot of the runs he helped create. Problem is, major league salaries are still weighted heavily on offensive contributions. So to get Bay, you'd have to sign him to a overvalued deal that will bite you in the ass. Improving on catching is incredibly difficult and there are very few guys out there who can impact the W-L column very much. What makes you think that Carl Crawford is even available? He still has an option that Tampa could very well exercise. And here's another question for you - while I don't disagree that the Mets have other holes, why are you saying that Murphy is the one who shouldn't be replaced? Why is he immune? Not quite sure how you can construe this as a case of racism. I don’t think it’s any secret that we as human beings like to cheer for guys we can relate to. Murphy is a white dude with a medium build, which seems to describe a good chunk of the baseball watching public. I’m Japanese, and therefore probably think too highly of Japanese players. It’s the way many of us are. I mean, we’re not color-blind, you know.

And I hate the argument “it’s not a fantasy situation”. It means nothing. What is important is that you put nine guys on the field who can win roughly 60% of the games. And if you can’t do that, then you have a problem. Murphy at first makes this difficult.

You also overrate what Jason Bay can do. Sure, he’s a superior hitter. But I wouldn’t want him anywhere near LF in Citi Field. The man can’t field his position for his life. He’ll give up a lot of the runs he helped create. Problem is, major league salaries are still weighted heavily on offensive contributions. So to get Bay, you’d have to sign him to a overvalued deal that will bite you in the ass.

Improving on catching is incredibly difficult and there are very few guys out there who can impact the W-L column very much.

What makes you think that Carl Crawford is even available? He still has an option that Tampa could very well exercise.

And here’s another question for you – while I don’t disagree that the Mets have other holes, why are you saying that Murphy is the one who shouldn’t be replaced? Why is he immune?

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]]> By: Ceetar http://umpbump.com/press/2009/09/10/stop-the-mancrush-on-daniel-murphy/comment-page-1/#comment-61591 Ceetar Thu, 10 Sep 2009 19:50:18 +0000 http://umpbump.com/press/?p=6842#comment-61591 These comments are full of racism. lovely. Your positional argument doesn't hold a ton of sway. It doesn't matter how he compares to the other first baseman in the league. It's not a fantasy situation here. Sure, throwing money and prospects at everyone to get an All-Star at every position is the best way to make the team awesome, but that's not what's going to happen. Getting a slugging LF is much more important, because unless you pull off some trade and give up prospects, the upgrade from Pagan->Bay/Holliday/Crawford.... is much better than Murphy->whats available. You also need a catcher (and a backup) and I assume they're going with Francoeur based on his couple of weeks, but he's not exactly a great player either. These comments are full of racism. lovely.

Your positional argument doesn’t hold a ton of sway. It doesn’t matter how he compares to the other first baseman in the league. It’s not a fantasy situation here. Sure, throwing money and prospects at everyone to get an All-Star at every position is the best way to make the team awesome, but that’s not what’s going to happen. Getting a slugging LF is much more important, because unless you pull off some trade and give up prospects, the upgrade from Pagan->Bay/Holliday/Crawford…. is much better than Murphy->whats available. You also need a catcher (and a backup) and I assume they’re going with Francoeur based on his couple of weeks, but he’s not exactly a great player either.

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